Musings of a Palestinian Princess: Paradise Lost: Robert Fisk's eulogy for Beirut

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Saturday, July 29, 2006

Paradise Lost: Robert Fisk's eulogy for Beirut

Thank you Halla for e-mailing this to me:

Paradise Lost: Robert Fisk's eulogy for Beirut
Published: 19 July 2006


Elegant buildings lie in ruins. The heady scent of gardenias gives way to the acrid stench of bombed-out oil installations. And everywhere terrified people are scrambling to get out of a city that seems tragically doomed to chaos and destruction. As Beirut - 'the Paris of the East' - is defiled yet again, Robert Fisk, a resident for 30 years, asks: how much more punishment can it take?

In the year 551, the magnificent, wealthy city of Berytus - headquarters of the imperial East Mediterranean Roman fleet - was struck by a massive earthquake. In its aftermath, the sea withdrew several miles and the survivors - ancestors of the present-day Lebanese - walked out on the sands to loot the long-sunken merchant ships revealed in front of them.
That was when a tidal wall higher than a tsunami returned to swamp the city and kill them all. So savagely was the old Beirut damaged that the Emperor Justinian sent gold from Constantinople as compensation to every family left alive.
Some cities seem forever doomed. When the Crusaders arrived at Beirut on their way to Jerusalem in the 11th century, they slaughtered every man, woman and child in the city. In the First World War, Ottoman Beirut suffered a terrible famine; the Turkish army had commandeered all the grain and the Allied powers blockaded the coast. I still have some ancient postcards I bought here 30 years ago of stick-like children standing in an orphanage, naked and abandoned.
An American woman living in Beirut in 1916 described how she "passed women and children lying by the roadside with closed eyes and ghastly, pale faces. It was a common thing to find people searching the garbage heaps for orange peel, old bones or other refuse, and eating them greedily when found. Everywhere women could be seen seeking eatable weeds among the grass along the roads..."

How does this happen to Beirut? For 30 years, I've watched this place die and then rise from the grave and then die again, its apartment blocks pitted with so many bullets they looked like Irish lace, its people massacring each other.
I lived here through 15 years of civil war that took 150,000 lives, and two Israeli invasions and years of Israeli bombardments that cost the lives of a further 20,000 of its people. I have seen them armless, legless, headless, knifed, bombed and splashed across the walls of houses. Yet they are a fine, educated, moral people whose generosity amazes every foreigner, whose gentleness puts any Westerner to shame, and whose suffering we almost always ignore.
They look like us, the people of Beirut. They have light-coloured skin and speak beautiful English and French. They travel the world. Their women are gorgeous and their food exquisite. But what are we saying of their fate today as the Israelis - in some of their cruelest attacks on this city and the surrounding countryside - tear them from their homes, bomb them on river bridges, cut them off from food and water and electricity? We say that they started this latest war, and we compare their appalling casualties - 240 in all of Lebanon by last night - with Israel's 24 dead, as if the figures are the same.

And then, most disgraceful of all, we leave the Lebanese to their fate like a diseased people and spend our time evacuating our precious foreigners while tut-tutting about Israel's "disproportionate" response to the capture of its soldiers by Hizbollah.

I walked through the deserted city centre of Beirut yesterday and it reminded more than ever of a film lot, a place of dreams too beautiful to last, a phoenix from the ashes of civil war whose plumage was so brightly coloured that it blinded its own people. This part of the city - once a Dresden of ruins - was rebuilt by Rafiq Hariri, the prime minister who was murdered scarcely a mile away on 14 February last year.
The wreckage of that bomb blast, an awful precursor to the present war in which his inheritance is being vandalised by the Israelis, still stands beside the Mediterranean, waiting for the last UN investigator to look for clues to the assassination - an investigator who has long ago abandoned this besieged city for the safety of Cyprus.
At the empty Etoile restaurant - best snails and cappuccino in Beirut, where Hariri once dined Jacques Chirac - I sat on the pavement and watched the parliamentary guard still patrolling the façade of the French-built emporium that houses what is left of Lebanon's democracy. So many of these streets were built by Parisians under the French mandate and they have been exquisitely restored, their mock Arabian doorways bejewelled with marble Roman columns dug from the ancient Via Maxima a few metres away.

Hariri loved this place and, taking Chirac for a beer one day, he caught sight of me sitting at a table. "Ah Robert, come over here," he roared and then turned to Chirac like a cat that was about to eat a canary. "I want to introduce you, Jacques, to the reporter who said I couldn't rebuild Beirut!"

And now it is being un-built. The Martyr Rafiq Hariri International Airport has been attacked three times by the Israelis, its glistening halls and shopping malls vibrating to the missiles that thunder into the runways and fuel depots. Hariri's wonderful transnational highway viaduct has been broken by Israeli bombers. Most of his motorway bridges have been destroyed. The Roman-style lighthouse has been smashed by a missile from an Apache helicopter. Only this small jewel of a restaurant in the centre of Beirut has been spared. So far.

It is the slums of Haret Hreik and Ghobeiri and Shiyah that have been levelled and "rubble-ised" and pounded to dust, sending a quarter of a million Shia Muslims to seek sanctuary in schools and abandoned parks across the city. Here, indeed, was the headquarters of Hizbollah, another of those "centres of world terror" which the West keeps discovering in Muslim lands. Here lived Sayed Hassan Nasrallah, the Party of God's leader, a ruthless, caustic, calculating man; and Sayad Mohamed Fadlallah, among the wisest and most eloquent of clerics; and many of Hizbollah's top military planners - including, no doubt, the men who planned over many months the capture of the two Israeli soldiers last Wednesday.

But did the tens of thousands of poor who live here deserve this act of mass punishment? For a country that boasts of its pin-point accuracy - a doubtful notion in any case, but that's not the issue - what does this act of destruction tell us about Israel? Or about ourselves?
In a modern building in an undamaged part of Beirut, I come, quite by chance, across a well known and prominent Hizbollah figure, open-neck white shirt, dark suit, clean shoes. "We will go on if we have to for days or weeks or months or..." And he counts these awful statistics off on the fingers of his left hand. "Believe me, we have bigger surprises still to come for the Israelis - much bigger, you will see. Then we will get our prisoners and it will take just a few small concessions."

I walk outside, feeling as if I have been beaten over the head. Over the wall opposite there is purple bougainvillaea and white jasmine and a swamp of gardenias. The Lebanese love flowers, their colour and scent, and Beirut is draped in trees and bushes that smell like paradise.

As for the huddled masses from the powder of the bombed-out southern slums of Haret Hreik, I found hundreds of them yesterday, sitting under trees and lying on the parched grass beside an ancient fountain donated to the city of Beirut by the Ottoman Sultan Abdul-Hamid. How empires fall.

Far away, across the Mediterranean, two American helicopters from the USS Iwo Jima could be seen, heading through the mist and smoke towards the US embassy bunker complex at Awkar to evacuate more citizens of the American Empire. There was not a word from that same empire to help the people lying in the park,
to offer them food or medical aid.

And across them all has spread a dark gray smoke that works its way through the entire city, the fires of oil terminals and burning buildings turning into a cocktail of sulphurous air that moves below our doors and through our windows. I smell it when I wake in the morning. Half the people of Beirut are coughing in this filth, breathing their own destruction as they contemplate their dead.

The anger that any human soul should feel at such suffering and loss was expressed so well by Lebanon's greatest poet, the mystic Khalil Gibran, when he wrote of the half million Lebanese who died in the 1916 famine, most of them residents of Beirut:

My people died of hunger, and he who
Did not perish from starvation was
Butchered with the sword;
They perished from hunger
In a land rich with milk and honey.
They died because the vipers and
Sons of vipers spat out poison into
The space where the Holy Cedars and
The roses and the jasmine breathe
Their fragrance.

And the sword continues to cut its way through Beirut. When part of an aircraft - perhaps the wing-tip of an F-16 hit by a missile, although the Israelis deny this - came streaking out of the sky over the eastern suburbs at the weekend, I raced to the scene to find a partly decapitated driver in his car and three Lebanese soldiers from the army's logistics unit. These are the tough, brave non-combat soldiers of Kfar Chim, who have been mending power and water lines these past six days to keep Beirut alive.
I knew one of them. "Hello Robert, be quick because I think the Israelis will bomb again but we'll show you everything we can." And they took me through the fires to show me what they could of the wreckage, standing around me to protect me.

And a few hours later, the Israelis did come back, as the men of the small logistics unit were going to bed, and they bombed the barracks and killed 10 soldiers, including those three kind men who looked after me amid the fires of Kfar Chim.

And why? Be sure - the Israelis know what they are hitting. That's why they killed nine soldiers near Tripoli when they bombed the military radio antennas. But a logistics unit? Men whose sole job was to mend electricity lines? And then it dawns on me. Beirut is to die. It is to be starved of electricity now that the power station in Jiyeh is on fire. No one is to be allowed to keep Beirut alive. So those poor men had to be liquidated.
Beirutis are tough people and are not easily moved. But at the end of last week, many of them were overcome by a photograph in their daily papers of a small girl, discarded like a broken flower in a field near Ter Harfa, her feet curled up, her hand resting on her torn blue pyjamas, her eyes - beneath long, soft hair - closed, turned away from the camera. She had been another "terrorist" target of Israel and several people, myself among them, saw a frightening similarity between this picture and the photograph of a Polish girl lying dead in a field beside her weeping sister in 1939.
I go home and flick through my files, old pictures of the Israeli invasion of 1982. There are more photographs of dead children, of broken bridges. "Israelis Threaten to Storm Beirut", says one headline. "Israelis Retaliate". "Lebanon At War". "Beirut Under Siege". "Massacre at Sabra and Chatila".
Yes, how easily we forget these earlier slaughters. Up to 1,700 Palestinians were butchered at Sabra and Chatila by Israel's proxy Christian militia allies in September of 1982 while Israeli troops - as they later testified to Israel's own court of inquiry - watched the killings. I was there. I stopped counting the corpses when I reached 100. Many of the women had been raped before being knifed or shot.
Yet when I was fleeing the bombing of Ghobeiri with my driver Abed last week, we swept right past the entrance of the camp, the very spot where I saw the first murdered Palestinians. And we did not think of them. We did not remember them. They were dead in Beirut and we were trying to stay alive in Beirut, as I have been trying to stay alive here for 30 years.

I am back on the sea coast when my mobile phone rings. It is an Israeli woman calling me from the United States, the author of a fine novel about the Palestinians. "Robert, please take care," she says. "I am so, so sorry about what is being done to the Lebanese. It is unforgivable. I pray for the Lebanese people, and the Palestinians, and the Israelis." I thank her for her thoughtfulness and the graceful, generous way she condemned this slaughter.
Then, on my balcony - a glance to check the location of the Israeli gunboat far out in the sea-smog - I find older clippings. This is from an English paper in 1840, when Beirut was a great Ottoman city. "Beyrouth" was the dateline. "Anarchy is now the order of the day, our properties and personal safety are endangered, no satisfaction can be obtained, and crimes are committed with impunity. Several Europeans have quitted their houses and suspended their affairs, in order to find protection in more peaceable countries."
On my dining-room wall, I remember, there is a hand-painted lithograph of French troops arriving in Beirut in 1842 to protect the Christian Maronites from the Druze. They are camping in the Jardin des Pins, which will later become the site of the French embassy where, only a few hours ago, I saw French men and women registering for their evacuation. And outside the window, I hear again the whisper of Israeli jets, hidden behind the smoke that now drifts 20 miles out to sea.

Fairouz, the most popular of Lebanese singers, was to have performed at this year's Baalbek festival, cancelled now like all Lebanon's festivals of music, dance, theatre and painting. One of her most popular songs is dedicated to her native city:

To Beirut - peace to Beirut with all my heart
And kisses - to the sea and clouds,
To the rock of a city that looks like an old sailor's face.

From the soul of her people she makes wine,
From their sweat, she makes bread and jasmine.
So how did it come to taste of smoke and fire?

80 Comments:

At Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:35:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

it never ceases to amaze me that arabs instigate violence and then whine and complain when they are retaliated against. how's this for a new idea: leave the israelis alone and get on with your own lives. israel would have never touched lebanon if hezbollah hadn't crossed an internationally recognized border. the lebanese should have never stood for hezbollah arming themselves on their border. i think tzipi livni said it best: if you go to sleep with a bomb, you might wake up with another bomb. wake up people.

 
At Sunday, July 30, 2006 6:28:00 AM, Blogger solitarioh2005 said...

Hello : When it comes to beyrouth is not as bombed as one might think looking at the pictures.
One should not forget they show just the bombed parts and not the parts of the city who were not bombed


click here to see image. Open in a new window


2 When it comes to the conflict..., the fact of the matter is that Israel was attacked inside the 66 borders.

Israel left south lebanon in may 2000.

Since then hezzbolah has been atacking the Israelis.

October 2000 they cross the UN border and killed 3 israelis.

In the next years they shell from time to time israeli cities with anti aircraft batteries.

In 2006 they killed 3 israelis and kidnap 2.

It was Hezzbolah fault.

Israel got a beating . This is the truth.

Actually israeli never intended to invade ,ocupy south lebanon.

First Israel just wanted to put pressure on the lebanese to disarm Hezzbolah and to punish lebanon for the Hezzbolah behaviour).

But it went wrong because Hezzbolah did strike back and did strike back hard.

A Israeli ship was almost sunk by a silkworm iranian made missile .

Besides Nasrallah start firing katyushas

Israel did retaliate and start trying to destroy the Hezzbolah rocket lauchers but it did not proove easy.



click here to see image of hezz Katyusha. Open in a new window


Finally Israel tried to occupy 2 Hezzbolah towns but they had built a network of tunels and bunkers and that prooved very dificult either.

Israel decided not to launch a ground invasion .

The consequences of these events :

Nasralah became very popular all across the arab world.

Radicals got empowered.

Iran got very happy.

This does not bode well for the future of the region.

 
At Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:29:00 PM, Blogger What is "Occupation" said...

yawn...

 
At Sunday, July 30, 2006 8:43:00 PM, Anonymous Canuckguy said...

Princess, that was an eloquent report by Fist. Most people only see one side of conflicts and some people, the ones you least expect it from, can understand the two sides.

I saw this item in a newspaper about David Ben-Gurion. He, revered as one of Israel’s founders and first prime minister, made this statement, I don’t know when but no doubt after he became an elder statesman.

“If I were an Arab leader, I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: We have taken their country…We come from Israel, but 2000 years ago, and what is that to them? There was anti-semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz but was that their fault? They only see one thing: We have stolen their country. Why should they accept that?”

So some of you people, open your minds a bit and see that there are really two legitimate sides to this sad story. If such a man can make such an admission, then surely we can open our minds more.

Now before some of you go all hairy-back knuckledragger on me, let me also state I personally don’t agree that Israel be destroyed (obviously!!), they exist now and there is no choice other than they keep fighting to survive because nothing but their destruction would satisfy a large faction of the Muslim world. As you can see, I have no solution to offer, I can't imagine what that solution can be that would satisfy both sides. It's just something to mull over. This tragic situation, a situation that goes back further than the creation of Israel in the late 1940's, seemingly has no end.

 
At Sunday, July 30, 2006 11:32:00 PM, Blogger Halla said...

no problem, this article got to me!
Solitario, no matter how you justify it, Lebanon has been bombed and innocent people including children have been killed.
I understand going after Hezbollah but did the Lebanese infrastructure have to be destroyed?? wreck their economy and not to mention Israel's? how about american taxpayers putting out $65 million for evacuations? Don't you think the response could have been done differently? or do you just go with the status quo and follow like sheep.

Do you really think that peace can be achieved when you go after innocent people and destroy their lives? All it does is breed hate and I hope this generation or the future finds a much better solution then the old one has!!

Nothing will ever be achieved by destroying peoples lives and hopes, memories are long and the new generation is growing up with these hateful memories!

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 1:12:00 AM, Blogger solitarioh2005 said...

Don't you think the response could have been done differently?/..../

or do you just go with the status quo and follow like sheep.



Reply : Of course I think the response could , should have been diferently.


For years Hezzbolah had been shelling israeli positions.


Look at the images I took from a Hezzbolah propaganda video I found in your tube.


Open in a new window to see shots of a Hezzbola video , May this year



Open in a new window to watch a nasrallah video

(The video was shoot after May 2006 and as far as I am aware Nasrallah promises to liberate more prisioners ,in other words he was already preparing the attack ).


In the end of June or beginning of July a israeli soldier was kidnapped in Gaza and when 2 more soldiers were kidnapped in the north this is the straw that break the camel back,so to speak.

So Israel did react

Israel military remember lebanon well..; They stayed there from 82 to 2000 so at first they want to avoid another lebanon invasion.
In order to avoid invasion but force hezzbola to be disarmed they decided to break civilian infraestructure.

That did not work because hezzbola fought back.
Hezzbolah start bombarding Israeli cities.

Israel responded hiting hezzbolah targets and buildings.

A few days ago acording to J Post there was a meeting in wich military pressed for a ground invasion but prime minister did not agree so the air war will continue.

Shooting small targets from the air is very dificult.

Rockets are hidden in buildings ..,garages..., so more innocent will die.

Everything could have been done diferently.

Hours after the israeli soldiers got abducted Nasrallah gave a press conference.

Israel could have tried to bomb Nasralah right after the conference.

Maybe less people would have died..;
Or israel could have waited and try to snatch Nasrallah and bring him back to Tel Aviv.

More scary than all is that the real fight has not yet started.

Nasrallah is a puppet of Iran.

The real danger is a war between Israel , Iran.
Millions might die.



Iran forces urged to prepare to hit Israel

" TEHRAN (Reuters) -
Iran's hardline forces should get ready to take revenge on
Israel and the United States for the offensive on Lebanon, the head of the Revolutionary Guards was quoted as saying on Sunday.
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"The Basij and Revolutionary Guards should prepare to get even with the Zionists and Americans," Yahya Rahim-Safavi was quoted as telling Islamic militiamen by the conservative Fars news agency.

The Basij are volunteer Islamic militiamen.

"The timing of the this will be announced by the leader," he added.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 1:16:00 AM, Blogger Rob Wahl said...

This is a great blog. I followed links from one blog to another to find it. I'm going to put a response on my own blog at http://nlcommunities.com/communities/nisgaa/ But just a note: There live among us a certain percentage of people who are by their very nature thugs and bullies. I think it's genetic, so in a manner of speaking they are us too. When a nation or people are unhappy they sometimes resort to making these thugs and bullies their leaders. Then you get violence. I'll continue this on my own blog.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 1:20:00 AM, Blogger solitarioh2005 said...

The basic problem is that people in the midle east still did not realize war is not good.
Arabs keep dreaming about jihad.

Jihad hurts. jihad is bad.

But people in the middle East still did not realize that.

Nasrallah is a superstar for many.

I also criticize israeli policy. After the abduction of the Israeli soldier near Gaza more than 130 palestinians died ( Actually around 150 died ).

This is very wrong.

arab states should make peace with israel in the current borders and next people should try to make a cease fire in palestine.

No qassam, no suicide bombing, no israeli fire.

But the midle east goes in the oposite direction : Almedinaj of iran calls for israel destruction.., israelis do not feel happy...,hezzbolah kidnaps prisioners and israelis strike back hard.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 1:39:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.rantburg.com/poparticle.php?D=2006-07-30&ID=161319&HC=1

THIS is the picture that damns Hezbollah. It is one of several, smuggled from behind Lebanon's battle lines, showing that Hezbollah is waging war amid suburbia. The images, obtained exclusively by the Sunday Herald Sun, show Hezbollah using high-density residential areas as launch pads for rockets and heavy-calibre weapons. Dressed in civilian clothing so they can quickly disappear, the militants carrying automatic assault rifles and ride in on trucks mounted with cannon. The photographs, from the Christian area of Wadi Chahrour in the east of Beirut, were taken by a visiting journalist and smuggled out by a friend.

They emerged as:
US President George Bush called for an international force to be sent to Lebanon.

ISRAEL called up another 30,000 reserve troops.

THE UN's humanitarian chief Jan Egeland called for a three-day truce to evacuate civilians and transport food and water into cut-off areas.

US SECRETARY of State Condoleezza Rice returned to the Middle East to push a UN resolution aimed at ending the 18-day war, and:

A PALESTINIAN militant group said it had kidnapped, killed and burned an Israeli settler in the West Bank.
The images include one of a group of men and youths preparing to fire an anti-aircraft gun metres from an apartment block with sheets hanging out on a balcony to dry. Others show a militant with AK47 rifle guarding no-go zones after Israeli blitzes. Another depicts the remnants of a Hezbollah Katyusha rocket in the middle of a residential block blown up in an Israeli air attack.

The Melbourne man who smuggled the shots out of Beirut and did not wish to be named said he was less than 400m from the block when it was obliterated. "Hezbollah came in to launch their rockets, then within minutes the area was blasted by Israeli jets," he said. "Until the Hezbollah fighters arrived, it had not been touched by the Israelis. Then it was totally devastated. It was carnage. Two innocent people died in that incident, but it was so lucky it was not more."

The release of the images comes as Hezbollah faces criticism for allegedly using innocent civilians as "human shields". Mr Egeland blasted Hezbollah as "cowards" for operating among civilians. "When I was in Lebanon, in the Hezbollah heartland, I said Hezbollah must stop this cowardly blending in among women and children," he said

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 6:31:00 AM, Blogger Abu Shaar said...

Rubbish. Those pictures don't show the missiles firing do they. Furthermore they could be anywhere. And besides, that does not let off the hook the Israeli Atrocity Force from deliberately bombing apartment houses.

 
At Monday, July 31, 2006 6:32:00 PM, Blogger Halla said...

Solatorio, We agree on one thing and that war is not good! It certainly does not bring about any kind of peace, but you keep blaming the arabs for that only, both sides contribute to this "problem". The Jihad is brought about because of the oppression going by Israel in Palestine, I don't agree with the means to their Jihad but when you keep people oppressed and economically in the gutter destroying their schools and any means of keeping a low self esteem and you are not going to get people who love their oppressors. It doesn't work that way.

We need to find a different solution, because whatever is being done now is not working and will never work!!

 
At Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:16:00 AM, Anonymous alex said...

You know,

I am coming to the same conclusion that palestinian princess did a while back. Discussing does not help, none of us really change our points of view. We are still stuck in the same way of thinking. What should we do?

 
At Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:46:00 AM, Blogger Mr.RigorMortis said...

I, too, look back.

I see pictures.

I could give you a list as long as Lebanon, a list of stories where innocent Israelis were targeted (TARGET - to make a target of - especially: to set as a goal) and murdered, sometimes tortured first.

This did not start 18 days ago.

This did not start in 2000.

This did not start in ‘67.

This did not start in ’48.

This started before there was Israel. Jews were targeted and murdered by the Arab populace since Jews and Arabs existed.

I also remember the smiles, the glee, the shooting of the guns in celebration.

When the towers went down, when the bombs went off, when the soldiers were murdered and tossed out the window, the bloody hands haled as the hands of a hero.

Israel celebrates its freedom. Her enemies celebrate her deaths.

Israel desires nothing more than security for her citizens. Her enemies use their own as their weapons.

Israel weeps when it has to kill children, but it has to kill children to stay alive, and it must stay alive.

The rules of this war were forced upon her by her enemies, and she must play by these rules.

And no matter how many Arabs, or how many Americans, or how many Israelis object, Israel must make herself a safe place for her own children.

The hatred for her is instilled in her enemies at a very young age.

This war is the fault of one side and one side alone.

 
At Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:55:00 AM, Blogger Mr.RigorMortis said...

The point is this. Israel is not happy about the destruction, as its enemies would be if it were Israel being destroyed (G-d forbid.) Israel is not doing this for the hell of it, because they're itching for war. Israel is doing this, all this, to save itself. You may see Hezboloh as your defenders, as the "only ones who stand up to the zionist enemy" but, alas, they are fighting behind your daughters and sons. They are the reason for the destruction of the great city (whatever has been destroyed.) They are the cause of all the smoke, all the fire, all the crying. And yet, you sing their praises and decry Israel. Why? Why do you put up with them? Why do you sacrifice your children? Why do you offer their lives to Nassralah? Is there no reason. Is there no blind hate, a hate so deep you'll let your children die because of it? Shoot from your house, let your kids take the hit, cry, and then meet your Maker and explain it.

 
At Tuesday, August 01, 2006 5:31:00 AM, Blogger solitarioh2005 said...

I very much agree that these kind of discussions are circular - Neither side actually does change its position.
Pro Arabs blame Israel.
Pro Israelis blame arabs.

But if we look at facts Arabs have great responsability.

Many people say the problem is the Ocupation.

And why did the ocupation took place ?

Because of Nasser that wanted to destroy Israel

" Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight

President Nasser of Egypt " , May 30 , 1968 , 4 days before the war that started " The Ocupation ".


Open in a new window to see 30 May 1967 BBC page


Anyway.., I do not believe people will start cherising peace.

For centuries europeans shoot and kill each other ; The 2 world wars made dozens of millions of deaths. Only after tragedy did europeans learn that war is no good.

That does not mean Israeli policies are OK .

On the contrary.
After the Israeli soldier got abducted near the Gaza border more than 150 palestinians died in result of israeli incurcions in Gaza.

Gaza power plant was destroyed.

I think this policy is bad.

I think back in January February Israel should have tried to deal with Hamas instead of isolating it .

Israel is not always right but the muslim intelectuals have responsability in the state of war that grips the region.
I did not say arabs because now everyone says the cause of trouble is Iran and Iran is not an Arab country.

 
At Tuesday, August 01, 2006 5:44:00 AM, Blogger solitarioh2005 said...

I am coming to the same conclusion that palestinian princess did a while back. Discussing does not help, none of us really change our points of view. We are still stuck in the same way of thinking. What should we do?

Great question indeed.
I guess we should avoid to get too carried out by the arguments . Besides we should try our best to respect the person with whom we are argue.

People might not agree but that does not mean people should attack each other personally

 
At Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:18:00 AM, Blogger Mr.RigorMortis said...

Should Israel take out Iran's nuclear weapon sites?

YES:

It is not immoral to kill in self defense. It is a moral imperative.

HENRY MARK HOLZER

McClatchy-Tribune News Service

NEW YORK - Israel is a democratic sovereign state. It is heir to centuries of rabid anti-Semitism, and in the 60-plus years of its existence has suffered countless acts of state-sponsored aggression ranging from border incursions to homicide bombings to full-scale military assaults.

The rogue regime in Iran, controlled by anti-Semitic madmen, has publicly and repeatedly waved a potential nuclear sword, promising to annihilate Israel. It has loosed its terrorist puppet, Hezbollah, and has pressed forward with its nuclear weapons program.

Israel has two choices. It can wait until Iran escalates its attack and pray for the best. Or it can reprise its 1981 pre-emptive strike on Iraq's Osirak nuclear facility, which indisputably set Saddam Hussein's weapons program back decades and may have eliminated it for all time.

Which choice is best for preservation of the Jewish state? History provides some guidance.

Tens of millions of lives would have been saved from the carnage of World War II and the Holocaust had Western democracies destroyed Hitler's war-making machine in the 1930s.

More recently, the U.S. rousted the communist Cubans from Grenada and the narco-Noriega regime from Panama. We attacked Iraq on behalf of Kuwait and our own interests in the early '90s, and the Taliban in Afghanistan and the Hussein regime in Iraq on our own behalf a decade later.

We are told, however, that the "international community" is opposed to Israeli retaliation against Hezbollah and unilateral military action against Iran. We are told that such conduct is not moral, that retaliation is wrong, that self-defense has limits. We are told that "international law" would not support Israeli action.

Nonsense!

It is not immoral to kill in self defense -- indeed, it is a moral imperative to do so. Every civilized legal system in history recognizes the right of a state wrongfully attacked to strike back at least in kind -- as Israel is doing now in Lebanon.

International law is impotent to deal with today's terrorism waged by states and their surrogates who have not the slightest concern for law of any kind.

In the context of aggressive state-sponsored war, the idea of international law should not deter Israel because those rules are a travesty.

In the 20th century alone, German Nazis, Japanese imperialists, Italian Fascists, Soviet communists -- and let's not forget the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese -- unhesitatingly initiated attacks against their neighbors.

International law could not stop, let alone prevent, the extermination of Jews, the Rape of Nanking, the bombing of Ethiopia, the starvation of Ukraine, the sacking of Seoul, and the savage slaughter of innocent civilians at Tet.

As Israel, by pre-emptive strike against Iran and retaliation against Hezbollah, defends itself in an increasingly hostile and dangerous world, it keeps faith with its people, the posterity of Jewish survivors of centuries of hatred, oppression, murder and genocide.

"Never Again!" is a promise that must be kept.

 
At Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:47:00 AM, Blogger Abu Shaar said...

I find I no longer have the patience to engage in dialogue with people who cannot condemn the murder of children. It is very easy to wring your hands about wanting dialogue when you have your boot on someone's neck. First remove the boot, then we can dialogue.

I know there are many more people where I live and where I visit on the internets who have not heard about the situation except from the mainstream media and it is these people I want to concentrate my activism.

What should we do? I have mentioned a few times on Laila El Haddad's blog but I tell everyone to donate to the Middle East Children's Alliance an organisation in the United States that gives money directly to children in need in Palestine and Iraq and Lebanon.

Also: keep reading Dr. Mona El Farrah's blog

 
At Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:41:00 AM, Anonymous alex said...

I have an idea, how about this: Everybody go to blockbuster and PLEASE PEOPLE watch the promises (here i will give you the link: http://blockbuster.com/catalog/DisplayMovieSpecialOffers.action?channel=Movies&subChannel=sub&movieID=132891&displayBoxArt=true)

Ok now after everybody watches it, let's continue our discussion hopefully in a different manner. Objections?

 
At Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:32:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

abu shaar: STOP THE KASSAMS, TELL HAMAS TO STOP HIDING BEHIND AL AKSA MARTYRS, ETC. TELL HEZBOLLAH TO STOP FIRING FROM CIVILIANS BASEMENTS, ETC AND WE WILL TALK TO YOU...............You know that they are hiding behind civilians.....

 
At Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:35:00 AM, Anonymous alex said...

One more movie I just watched which is very interesting is called "paradise now". Very very interesting....

 
At Thursday, August 03, 2006 4:57:00 PM, Blogger Mama Bird said...

Robert Fisk is eloquent and clear as usual. Thank you for posting this.

 
At Friday, August 04, 2006 5:12:00 AM, Blogger Halla said...

Alex, I am impressed that you watched Paradise now....I saw it a while ago and found it to be interesting but sad.

 
At Friday, August 04, 2006 9:54:00 PM, Anonymous alex said...

hey halla,

Yeah I really liked the movie and it shows that there is a possibility of peace :). Also, the main girl in that movie made me think of palestinian princess....

 
At Sunday, August 06, 2006 11:55:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

just briefly visited your blog for the first time, seems to be quite good.
best regards from australia

 
At Tuesday, August 08, 2006 6:03:00 AM, Blogger Mr.RigorMortis said...

Check out these links:
http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=null

http://www.video.exposetheleft.net/video/brigitte-gabriel.wmv


And check out the video on this website: americancongressfortruth.com
The video is on the bottom left corner.

 
At Tuesday, August 08, 2006 6:04:00 AM, Blogger Mr.RigorMortis said...

From the website:

Welcome and thank you for taking the time to visit our website, American Congress for Truth. Evil prevails when good people do nothing. With the spread of radical Islamic fundamentalism throughout the world, it is important for the people of the western world to know and understand what to expect and what to do about it.

We are faced with a war that has been declared on Christians and Jews in America and the world. Citizens of the most powerful country on earth watched in horror on 9/11, 2001 as a handful of men brought the United States of America to its knees. Wall Street froze, the stock market tumbled, and national air traffic ground to a halt. The West faces a threat more menacing today than the past goals of communist world domination.

We are facing an enemy that uses children as human bombs, mothers as suicide bombers, and men driven by the glory of death and the promise of eternal sexual bliss in heaven. We are fighting an enemy that loves death more than we love life. I am a victim of the Lebanese civil war, which was the first front in the worldwide Jihad of militant Islam against the only Christian country in the Middle East. My family’s home was shelled and destroyed leaving me wounded. I lived underground in a bomb shelter from age 10 to 17 without electricity and very little food. I had to crawl under sniper bullets to a spring to fetch water for my elderly parents. I was betrayed by my country, rescued by my enemy Israel, the Jewish State that is under attack for its existence today.

911 changed most American lives forever, but it struck an especially sensitive chord with me. It reminded me that the entire world is threatened by the same radical Islamic theology that succeeded in annihilating the “infidels” in Lebanon. That’s why I created American Congress for Truth. ACT was formed in June 2002 to inform, inspire and motivate Jews and Christians throughout society in ways to act and fight for our western ways of life and the values we cherish. Our members include Jews, Arabs and Christians from all background both secular and religious, liberals and conservatives. People who have put their differences aside to combat both anti American and anti Israel propaganda masquerading as anti Imperialism and anti Zionism wherever it exists; in the western media, among the intellectual elite, and on American college Campuses.

So many times in history in the last 100 years, citizens have stood by and done nothing allowing evil to prevail. As America stood up against and defeated communism now it is time to stand up against the terror of religious bigotry and intolerance. I urge you to become an ACT activist and join a growing network of Americans concerned about securing their nation from acts of terrorism. Through American Congress for Truth you can be a voice effecting the future of your community and your nation.

Thank you for your support. You are the heroes who make all our work possible. And I especially thank you for helping me protect the country that has blessed me so much, America, the dream that became my address.

Brigitte Gabriel

 
At Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:46:00 PM, Blogger Palestinian Princess said...

Mr.Rigor:

I wouldn't join an organization like that in a million years. I do not think categorizing people and most all muslims as radical is gonna solve anything, and I think American and Israeli tactics are imperialist as this organization thinks muslims are radicals.

Ewww... It makes me shiver that people are so retarded to think that bombing and killing and destruction will lead to democracy in the middle east, what the hell kind of democracy is that, thats not the kind I want. I can't believe Americans that I meet almost all the time are so oblivious to what is going on in the world. Its so sad.

For all the readers, I hope you realized that I don't censor or delete anything. I dont think censorship will help anything out, as a matter of fact it shows more of a persons character. Just a tip, avoid the anonymous comments sometimes, because it could be someone who pretends to be someone they are not in order to make a stereotypical comment, just my advice.

I fly this week back to Jordan and I will be there about one month before going to Nablus, so remember I am just not going to be able to be on a lot, but I really miss dialoguing with you guys...

Take care and peace.

 
At Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:53:00 PM, Blogger Abu Shaar said...

Take care, Lucy. Safe travels.

 
At Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:09:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lucy: Have a good one! Take care!Shula.

 
At Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:57:00 AM, Anonymous alex said...

Hope to hear from you soon.

 
At Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:36:00 PM, Blogger Ammoontie said...

I love reading your blog, very inspiring.

 
At Friday, August 11, 2006 11:19:00 AM, Blogger Mr.RigorMortis said...

My dear princess, imperialist? America? Why? Because it went into Iraq? Because it feels not only the pride of being the world's superpower but also the profound responsability? We're not only the strongest in muscle but also in morality, and when other countries are treating people in an immoral way, be it their own citizens or the citizens of a different country who may not be strong enough to defend themselves, we feel not only the right to defend them, but the obligation! Imperialist? Tell me why?

Israel. Good ol' Israel. Imperialist. Israel is the imperialist. Of course. OK. So here's the new deal. Israel will give back all the land it stole in wars it didn't start, if all the arab countries will return all the land and money that belonged to Jewish people who lived in their lands before they had to flee and left behind everything. Till then, it's an exchange.

Those Arabic Jews didn't become displaced refugees, and do you know why? Because they were given a new home and a new begining in their new country. The "Palestinian people" were left behind by not only their Arab neighbors but by their leaders, as pawns in an antisimitic plot. That the world fell for it is only half the tragidy. The poor persons who were being used fell for it. But the disaster came when the Jews fell for it.

Golda Meir once said that piece will come when the Palestinians love their own children more than they hate us. I say that piece will come when the Israeli people love their own children more that they love a false piece.

Why wouldn't you join such an orginization? Her life was also made miserable by Palestinian crazies, only she came to the realization. You realization is still pending...

 
At Friday, August 11, 2006 11:24:00 AM, Blogger Mr.RigorMortis said...

Walid Shoebat:

"The Holocaust never ended but the victims have decided to defend themselves”

“The occupation is in the minds of Children who are taught hatred.”

“Israel was the solution for the world’s greatest refugee problem that went on for two thousand years”

“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”

“When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”

“The Israeli Arab Conflict is not about geography but about Jew hatred; Throughout the Islamic as well as Christendom's history Jews have been persecuted, the persecution of Israel is just the same as the old antisemitism.”

“The Arab refugees are being used as pawns' to create a terror breeding ground, as a form of aggression against Israel”

“The Arab refugee problem was caused by Arab aggression and not Israel. Why should Israel be responsible for their fate?”

"No one (Arab or Jew) has a "right of return". Jews who fled Arab persecution from 1948 to 1956 should have no right of return to Arab lands, and Arabs who ran away in 1948 and 1967 should have no right of return either. This should end all argument. Yet the Jews accept this judgment, while the Arabs reject EVERYTHING."

 
At Friday, August 11, 2006 11:24:00 AM, Blogger Mr.RigorMortis said...

Biography of Walid Shoebat:

Born in Bethlehem of Judea, Walid's grandfather was the Muslim Mukhtar (chieftain) of Beit Sahour-Bethlehem (The Shepherd's Fields) and a friend of Haj-Ameen Al-Husseni, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and notorious friend of Adolf Hitler.

Walid's great grandfather, Abdullah Ali Awad-Allah, was also a fighter and close associate of both Abdul Qader and Haj Amin Al-Husseini, who led the Palestinians against Israel. Walid lived through and witnessed Israel’s Six Day War while living in Jericho.

As a young man, he became a member of the Palestinian Liberation Organization, and participated in acts of terror and violence against Israel, and was later imprisoned in the Russian Compound, Jerusalem's central prison for incitement and violence against Israel.

After his release, he continued his life of violence and rioting in Bethlehem and the Temple Mount. After entering the U.S, he worked as a counselor for the Arab Student Organization at Loop College in Chicago and continued his anti-Israel activities.

In 1993, Walid studied the Tanach (Jewish Bible) in a challenge to convert his wife to Islam. Six months later, after intense study, Walid realized that everything he had been taught about Jews was a lie. Convinced he was on the side of evil, he became an advocate for his former enemy.

Driven by a deep passion to heal his own soul, and to bring the truth about the Jews and Israel to the world, Walid shed his former life and his work as a software engineer and set out to tirelessly bring the cause of Israel to tens of thousands of people throughout the world: churches and synagogues, civic groups, government leaders and media.

Walid has written several online books including "Dear Muslim, Let Me Tell You Why I Believed" and "Israel, And The World's Mock Trial”, where he exposes anti-Semitism and the hatred of Jews in both the Islamic Christian and secular worlds.

Walid is an American citizen and lives in the USA with his wife and children, under this assumed name.

 
At Saturday, August 12, 2006 3:29:00 AM, Anonymous alex said...

Mr.RigorMortis,

Very interesting. I will check out those books. Wow I never even thought that this kind of conversion is possible.

I have to disagree with you on the morale responsibility of United States. I live in US and I love this country, but when it comes to morales. There is no such thing in today's world.

First US liked Iraq, they even helped Saddam, gave weapons when he was not needed they took him down. Same thing with Talibs in Afghanistan, during cold war Talibs were needed to fight russians and US helped them to get to power when they became a nuissance they took them down too...... You still want to talk about morales?

 
At Friday, August 18, 2006 4:54:00 PM, Anonymous TexAg said...

Hi Palestinian Princess,
I hope life is not too bad for you as a christian Dhimmi having to live at the mercy of cut throats and mad cap mullahs...I hope you can emigrate to Israel or the States.
Peace!

"Palestinian Authority (PA) Sheik Muhammad Ibrahim Al-Madhi expressed these sentiments with regard to Jews during a Friday sermon broadcasted live on June 6, 2001 on PA TV, from the Sheik ‘Ijlin Mosque in

We welcome, as we did in the past, any Jew who wants to live in this land as a Dhimmi, just as the Jews have lived in our countries, as Dhimmis, and have earned appreciation, and some of them have even reached the positions of counselor or minister here and there. We welcome the Jews to live as Dhimmis, but the rule in this land and in all the Muslim countries must be the rule of Allah.

More recently, interviewed by Wall Street Journal reporter Karby Legget in late December of 2005, Hassam El-Masalmeh, who heads the Hamas contingent at the municipal council of Bethlehem, confirmed the organizations plan to re-institute the humiliating Koranic poll-tax on non-Muslims (i.e., jizya). El-Masalmeh stated explicitly,

We in Hamas intend to implement this tax someday. We say it openly – we welcome everyone to Palestine but only if they agree to live under our rules."

 
At Monday, August 21, 2006 8:47:00 PM, Blogger Abu-Issa said...

TexAg,

Interesting comment...all be it taken out of context and from an obviously radical point of view regarding the future of Palestine. I would hope that Palestine would not end up being a Muslim state which in my mind would negate everything that we have struggled against this far.

That being said I (also a Christian Palestinian) would prefer to be under the protection of a Muslim state than under 'military occupation' of a Jewish state.

Abu-Issa

 
At Monday, August 21, 2006 11:23:00 PM, Anonymous alex said...

Abu-Issa,

My response to you is: "It is very easy to say things like that from the comfort of Canada" try living under one!

 
At Tuesday, August 22, 2006 5:10:00 PM, Blogger Abu-Issa said...

...why? ...do YOU?? Please tell us of your first hand experiences.

I did live under the 'protection' of Israel when I was a child and thus the REASON I left. We had our own special ID's that we had to carry to identify ourselves as non-Jews under threat of imprisonment and/or torture. My travel both inside and outside of Jerusalem was controlled by Israeli soldiers. If I wanted to visit Nablus for example, it would have been next to impossible. Not to mention the continual harrasement and psychological terrorism of 'settlers' who were allowed to carry machine guns for personal protection from us 'barbarians'. It was made very clear to us in many ways that we were second class citizens of the Jewish state.

And being in Jerusalem I wasn't living under the gun of the occupation forces like Lucy and other Palestinians living in the West Bank or Gaza where it was(is) much worse.

My vision is of a secular Palestine for all religions and I think people like Sheik Muhammad Ibrahim Al-Madhi are in the minority.

Here from the 'comfort of Canada' I am free to tell my story and the story of other Palestinians. Please listen and learn.

Abu-Issa

P.S. if you have the stomach WATCH and learn what it is to be a non-Jew in the 'Jewish state'. WARNING: It will change your mind about living under the 'protection' of Israel.

 
At Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:49:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Abu-Issa,

Don't get all sensitive. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. My point did not come across let me restate. Palestine will probably never be a secular state. Not in a near future. Do you know why?.......

 
At Tuesday, August 22, 2006 10:25:00 PM, Blogger Abu-Issa said...

TexAg, Alex, Anon (or whatever your name will be in your next comment),

...uhh, is the answer because half of Palestine (ALL of it actually) is currently occupied by a state for Jews only...? And that they have lots and lots of really, REALLY big guns and ummm, nuclear weapons...?

Abu-Issa

 
At Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:33:00 AM, Anonymous alex said...

Abu-Issa,

First of all I only post under one name. Sorry I forgot to put my name last time. Well no not really that is not the reason. Unfortunately Palestinians are being used by other radical states and powerful terrorist groups such as Al-Qaeda to create extremist Islamic state. I never believed this theory untill I learned more about the second Chechen war and recent Hamas behavior proves that point as well.

 
At Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:53:00 PM, Blogger Abu-Issa said...

Extremism, whether it be Muslim, Christian or Jewish is a bad thing for ALL of us. I continue to believe extremists are in the minority.

It's our duty to keep the extremists, of our given religious groups, in check. For example, it's not my place to criticize Jihadists, that's for my Muslim Brothers. I on the other hand (as a Christian) can freely criticize the Christian fundamentalists here in North America who seem to have taken over.

If you have some secret information about the 2nd Chechen war...do tell...

Abu-Issa

 
At Thursday, August 24, 2006 8:23:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw

 
At Thursday, August 24, 2006 7:52:00 PM, Blogger Abu-Issa said...

Thank you anonymous...that is a brilliant clip of George Calloway doing his thing.

George Calloway has got to be one of the most courageous politicians ever! If I was to go into politics I would want to do it in the Calloway style.

The problem with Western media is that they just don't get it! Israel is a bigger threat to peace in the world than any country in the Middle East.

I just blogged about it myself.

Abu-Issa

 
At Thursday, August 24, 2006 8:59:00 PM, Anonymous alex said...

Abu-Issa,

You should stop saying things like that ok? By saying statements like that you are not helping but only making things worse, but I do respect your opinions.

I will write more about chechen war as soon as I get a chance sometime during the next week. But for now let me tell you, peace can be achieved and the only solution is to have palestinian and Israeli states side by side. There was a time ones when everything was calm. If you remember it was about 10 years ago. I think that could be achieved again.

 
At Thursday, August 24, 2006 10:41:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The real truth is that nothing has changed since 1948.
The road to peace is for all arabs to accept Israel.........or have every so many years wars, and destruction and killing of innocent people.............

 
At Friday, August 25, 2006 5:05:00 AM, Blogger Abu-Issa said...

Alex, not sure what you mean by 'stop saying things like that'....you're implying that I've said things like this before and honestly, I haven't.

While the US is concerned that Iran will ~go~ nuclear, Israel has had nuclear weapons for decades (the US knows because they gave them the technology) and they have warheads pointed at every single major Arab and Persian city in the Middle East...so tell me, who is the bigger threat to world peace??!

10 years ago things were ok for Israeli's but 10 years ago things were exactly like they are now for the Palestinians...the only difference is that NOW you (and others) are more aware of the Palestinian situation...spread the word!

There was time before the Europeans came to colonize Palestine when things were peaceful between Jew, Muslim and Christian, living together in Palestine THAT I believe can be acheived again. A FREE and United Palestine!

I am a peaceful person...a pacifist some people say...all I want is my country back in one piece. Israel should be disarmed peacefully and the Palestinian people should be allowed back to their homes, to their lands, to their inheritance and given back their dignity.

The 'Jewish state in Palestine experiment' has been a terrible failure and has brought the world to the brink of destruction...enough already!

Abu-Issa

 
At Friday, August 25, 2006 8:20:00 PM, Anonymous alex said...

Abu-Issa,

I am a pacifist too but what you are proposing cannot be achieved by peaceful means.

Yes I agree with you Israel has nuclear weapons and it had them for more than 50 years. (By the way US has nothing to do with that. It was France and UK who helped to get that going) Did Israel ever use those weapons? Did it ever threaten to use them? The answer is no! As soon as Iran gets the weapons it will not only try to use them, it will. So, is Israel a threat? No!!! Are extremists parties and states a threat? HELL YEAH!!

I dont like your comments because they are way one sided, if you call yourself a pacifist you have to look at things from both sides.

I understand the hardships of palestinian people and I feel bad about that, but I also understand if Hamas and their likes will lay down weapons and try to work out things with Israel, Israel will be happy to make peace.

When I was in Israel 10 year ago, I know I was a kid but even I could see that business was good. I remember going to Bethlehem and restaurants were full, a lot of tourists, street merchants, and etc. I am sure people want that back.


Regarding lands... Do you know about the land you live on? Canada and US should give their land back to all the Indians. That what follows from your logic. Wars happen and by the way Israel never caused previous Wars when it conquered land. Israel gave away Sinai to Egypt in exchange for peace and I am sure it would give back Golan Heights if Syrians are ever serious about REAL peace. Israel withdrew from Gaza and what was the result of that? Continuation of bombardment of Israeli cities in the South.

Here is what I think if Palestinians are serious about peace they should make first steps and Israel will follow. There are no instant solutions especially in Palestine!

 
At Friday, August 25, 2006 8:22:00 PM, Anonymous alex said...

Abu-Issa,

One more thing, I am strongly against going backwards in History. The reason why history is called history is because it is history!!!!!!! We need to move forward and define the future and not go backwards. Going backwards is always a bad idea.

 
At Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:17:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.palsolidarity.org/main/2006/08/26/arnold-palestine/

 
At Monday, August 28, 2006 9:53:00 PM, Blogger Abu-Issa said...

Alex,

So then you agree with me that going back 2000 years to resurrect an ancient "country" is crazy! That's fantastic!! The Palestinian people have been trying to convince the world of this for more than 58 years! I'm glad the message is starting to come through!

Speaking of Canada, I would gladly give the land back to the indigenous population if they were asking for it...especially if it would mean getting my country back as well so that I will have some where to go...

Abu-Issa

 
At Wednesday, August 30, 2006 4:18:00 AM, Blogger Justin Olbrantz (Quantam) said...

Abu-Issa, a couple questions, to clarify your position for me:
1. How exactly would you say Israel acquired the land now known as Israel from the Arabs, especially in the 1940s?
2. Is there something fundamentally wrong with Israel having a state? Is the simple existence of a country sufficient to completely destabilize a sizeable region of the world? If so, how?

And for anyone who knows the answer (I'm too lazy to look it up): does Israel have fusion-based thermonuclear weapons? What about inter-continental ballistic missiles?

 
At Saturday, September 02, 2006 8:51:00 PM, Blogger SmithBlog said...

Israel is not on the 'official' list of nuclear powers, but most analysts agree that the Israelis have at least a few dozen nuclear warheads. Israel probably also has medium range missiles, though I don't think they have ICBMs.

The main issue, for any rational person, is not the existence of the State of Israel, which is there to stay. I think that by now most Arabs realize this. The intractable sticking points are the millions of Palestinians living under occupation and the status of millions more who were displaced in the 1940s. If these issues are resolved, there would be tremendous progress towards peaceful coexistence, which has been so elusive for so long.

 
At Sunday, September 03, 2006 6:23:00 PM, Anonymous Raed Hamdan said...

Dear Lucy;
I am so happy to send you this letter wishing you and your family are fine.
I am Raed Moneef Mohareb Hamdan 24 years old from Palestine – Gaza .
I graduated from Islamic University of Gaza as communication and electrical engineer in 1st of February 2006 and I tried to look for a job but Unfortunately, I did not find any job for me. Situation here in Gaza is not helping it is getting worse and worse and it is not stable. The economical situation is very bad and salaries of employees in Palestinian Authority are not paid since 6 months ago and Gaza strip is under siege many months ago.
In addition to all the bad conditions in Gaza , me and my family live hard conditions;
My father died in Saudi Arabia in 1997 and I am eldest of my family and I have 5 brothers and 2 sisters and 3 of them are studying in palestinian universities in Gaza.

And as I told you previously that I did not find any chance of getting job and i know that you are familiar in educational system cause you studied in USA, I wish you can help me to have chance of job in USA or scholarship of master degree in my feild to continue my education an to help my family. And I attached all my papers that you may need them to help me in that.

Finally, I want to thank you very much for reading my letter

All best wishes to you.

Salam Alikum .

Your sincerely;
Raed Hamdan

email: raedmmhamdan@yahoo.com
phone: +9725997738198

 
At Monday, September 11, 2006 5:25:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i am a jew and a zionist,i am against extremist violence, when violence is carried out against israel, my heart closes to palestinians.
But Raed Hamdan, your letter is touching.
Im sorry life so bitterly difficult for palestinians.
I hope that your state be established, that your economy booms, and most of all now, Raed, i wish you luck in finding work my brother in life.
I know a lot of guys from here in South Africa go and work in London. So yes, once again, best of luck Raed.

 
At Tuesday, September 12, 2006 4:38:00 PM, Blogger Mama Bird said...

Dear Lucy,

I miss your posts and hope you return soon.

 
At Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:19:00 AM, Anonymous charlie brown said...

lucy where are you?

You are a cool person and i want you to blog some more.

You are smart, you write well, and you have good values.

rexpect girl.

 
At Thursday, September 14, 2006 6:33:00 AM, Blogger Observador said...

we all miss lucy posts

 
At Monday, September 18, 2006 5:15:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Lucy;
Where are you Princess;Do you think that You have got the right to leave us alone !!!,Please come back,we really need your thoughts and musings....

Warm Regardz...
HOPELESS....

 
At Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:44:00 PM, Anonymous Alex said...

Hey Lucy,

Where are you? You said you were going to stay in Jordan for a month. It has been more than that. I hope that everything is ok.

 
At Saturday, September 30, 2006 5:40:00 AM, Anonymous ariel sharon said...

she got busted ...HAHAHAH

 
At Wednesday, October 04, 2006 10:56:00 PM, Blogger Mr.RigorMortis said...

Is this a bad dream??? Is the world so simple as to be played like this???
How sad! How sad the state of affairs!!
Liars!!
And killers!!! The lies cause real deaths. Do they care?? I think you know the answer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi0rUBx_yio&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35BVTiOJN0w&mode=related&search=

 
At Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:20:00 AM, Anonymous Alex said...

Thanks for posting this. I like this kind of objective reports.

 
At Sunday, October 08, 2006 8:05:00 AM, Blogger Justin Olbrantz (Quantam) said...

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'M BORED! Fix it, Lucy! :P

 
At Monday, October 09, 2006 6:07:00 PM, Blogger Abu-Issa said...

Hey Justin you're still here...good!

I realized I never answered your comment from back in August:

1. How exactly would you say Israel acquired the land now known as Israel from the Arabs, especially in the 1940s?
2. Is there something fundamentally wrong with Israel having a state? Is the simple existence of a country sufficient to completely destabilize a sizeable region of the world? If so, how?


Israel became a country on a few different fronts: through Jewish terrorism (see Stern Gang, et al), political coersion in the West and guilt. The world, rightfully so, felt the guilt of it's inaction during WWII as it applied to European Jews. The Jewish population of Palestine (about 15%) was given 55% of Palestine in 1948. Muslim and Christian Palestinians were never consulted on the 'agreement' that was made entirely by outside (read Western) forces.

Palestine is the 'Holy Land'...it is holy to 3 religions of the world not just to Jews. At the time of Israel's creation in 1948 the Jewish population was only 15% as I said earlier...at the start of the Zionist movement to reclaim Palestine as a Jewish homeland her Jewish population was only 5%! So technically 2/3 of Palestine's immigrant Jewish population came for the sole purpose of establishing a Jewish state in Palestine and despite being a minority were granted one...something is fundamentaly wrong with that wouldn't you agree?

I think in order to understand the destabilizing effect the creation of Israel had in the Middle East you need to understand the attitude of 'The West' towards countries in 'The Orient' as they refered to it at the time. This happened at a time when Arab and Persian nations were coming into their own...a time when they felt that the Western Colonizers were finaly going to leave them alone. However, the establishment of Israel which was essentially European Jews coming to 'settle' or 'colonize' land populated by Arabs was seen as going back on promises made once again. For a full understanding of this please read "Orientalism" by Edward Said he handles the subject more thoroughly then I ever could. :0)

In regards to Israel's nuclear arsenal, in Jimmy Carters latest book ("Our Endangered Values: America's Moral Crisis") he placed the number of war heads at 200+.

To sum up, I believe the '2-state solution' has proven to be an utter failure and that the only solution is for a FREE and United Palestine where Jews, Muslims and Christians can live together in a secular society as they did before the Zionist movement ripped Palestine apart.

Let's 'Make the Holy Land Whole Again' by demanding a FREE and United Palestine.

Abu-Issa

 
At Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:22:00 PM, Blogger Observador said...

yes. We want to see another lucy post , lol

 
At Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:40:00 PM, Blogger Observador said...

The Jewish population of Palestine (about 15%) was given 55% of Palestine in 1948


As you can see in a report of the united nations.., the total population in palestine , in 1947 , was
1,845,000

Arabs : 1,237,000 67%

Jews
608,000 33%


Why people keepp claiming stuff that is simply not true?

I really do not understand.

You can check the article in wikipedia , as well as in the united nations sites.

This report published in 1947 is all over the web.

Click here to read the wikipedia article


Many muslims are reactionary. Why they dont want jews near them ? It is incredible. Muslim Arabs should live in peace with israel..,but no. They keep believing jews are bad fellows that did not deserve to have an home and an homeland.

For the palestinians many muslim claim they have the right to their homeland. But when it comes to the jews many muslims think jews have no right to live in their homes.
Ridiculous

 
At Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:49:00 PM, Blogger Observador said...

However, the establishment of Israel which was essentially European Jews coming to 'settle' or 'colonize' land populated by Arabs was seen as going back on promises made once again.

This mindset is reactionary.

Jews were poor people running for they lives.

But the bad muslim arabs see these poor jews as " colonizers" when in fact they were people fleeing persecution and extermination.

If arab muslims were good , fair human beings they would have been the first ones to welcome these victims of the europeans

Instead these people with hard hearts.., just turn a blind eye to the suffering of the poor jews and acused this persecuted people of being " colonizers".

And then came the mega nazi Al Husseinni , the palestinian leader and friend of Adolf Hitler.

For the arab muslims..,these are their heroes : People who befriend with adolf Hitler.
Peace did not come to palestine because arabs never embrace the jewish nation.
Instead they have been waging a relentless was against the small jewish state

 
At Thursday, October 12, 2006 9:41:00 PM, Blogger Observador said...

Having said that one must say palestinians suffer a lot and often Israelis show little respect for the life of the palestinian civilians.
So neither side is an angel.
Since the creation of israel a low level war has been going on.
Arab leaders should make peace with Israel.
Everyone would be better off.
Why the saudis..,the sheik of Qatar dont make a journey to jerusalem and make peace with Israel ? Why ?
They keep demanding that Israel does withdraw from territories but they dont dare to make a gesture of peace towards israel.
Sadat did it and paid with his life .

 
At Friday, October 13, 2006 10:22:00 PM, Anonymous Alex said...

Looking at arab countries that are at peace with Israel are doing much better if they were not. Jordan, Egypt and Turkey are doing much better by being friends with Israel than without it.

My heart goes to all suffering people. I feel bad for any people that suffer be those in Africa, Palestine or Israel.

But i am personally against going back in history. You can argue for the next 1000 years who was on that land first and who it belongs to, and if you follow that line of thought that all land that world countries are now occupying should not be occupying them in the first place.... right?

Anyway, so there is a current situation on the ground and that should the starting point....

 
At Saturday, October 14, 2006 2:19:00 AM, Anonymous ariel sharon said...

i fucked Lucy up! She's pregnant and is currently in Jordanian jail.

 
At Monday, October 23, 2006 10:10:00 PM, Anonymous alex said...

I really hope that Lucy is ok!

 
At Tuesday, October 24, 2006 7:01:00 AM, Anonymous aRIEL SHARON said...

don't worry alex ...she's in good hands......locked forever

 
At Monday, November 06, 2006 5:01:00 AM, Blogger Justin Olbrantz (Quantam) said...

Dang it, I'm getting bored. And history has shown that that is very, very bad for society.

 
At Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:25:00 AM, Anonymous Arik said...

u won't stay bored for too long....wait before we start kicking out the rest of Pals to Jordan

 
At Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:16:00 PM, Anonymous Arield Sharon said...

Jewish National Find decleares this blog a property of the State of Israel. It's not to be sold neither shared with any of diry aRabs. Once and forever! LEHAIM.

 
At Saturday, March 10, 2007 10:32:00 AM, Blogger I'M WITH JESUS said...

IMAGINE A COUNTRY RUN BY ARROGANT, JADED PRE-TEENS. THAT'S AMERICA TODAY: http://deanberryministries.org

 
At Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:10:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Muslims were right::::Earning interest IS evil.

The gods are angry that I am educating Manifest Destiny's next target:::India. Money is not an issue on the other planets, and profit, interest and excessive consumption are things that hurt you in the eyes of the gods.
This can be considered a positive for India, for they received extra decades before this temptation was empolyed upon them. But now even communist China is corrupted by money.
The gods are "leveling the playing field", paving the way for The End globally.

The Mother Teresa issue was the attempt to help the Hindus achieve salvation under the positioning that is Manifest Destiny.

Your virginity may buy you tens of thousands of years up there.

What you hear is telepathic theater. What you see is real, what you see will be enforced::The god's positioning is Manifest Destiny. The will dispose of that planet one day as well, for the 20th century was heinous:::You have TWO planets you need to get off of!!!!

Manifest Destiny dictates a white-man's prophecy - White-man's world, white-man's Apocolypse:::


Twenty-somethings are conditioned to respond positively to magic::::::they are the extacy generation.
This is not by accident. Expect they will be an important generation ("in charge", etc) when the battle between the Anti-Christ and Second Coming of Christ ocurrs.
This of course will be a 20-year war-revelry cycle distraction theater, and they want these people consumed by the high level of magic that will ocurr.
This generation is The Damned::::You're all going to die PEAKING like you're on X.



Austrian Sigmund Freud is known as the father of psychoanalysis, yet people have (mental) health problems because of their disfavor, illustrating the preditory purpose of this discipline, this individual.
These people.
Of course Hitler was Austrian:::An Austrian-born leader of a foreign nation. Glock, maker of the semi-automatic gun favored by black street gangs such as the Bloods and the Crips, is Austrian.
RedBull Energy drink, Buwdeiser both Austrian. What role do Austrians play in the cigarette industry??

The Holocaust was foreshadowing.
The gods established the pattern::::: the Jews sacrifice to help the disfavored understand::::
1. 1492 exodus from Spain. Spain became evil - financed Columbus, initiated missionaries, USA (dumping ground of disfavored, victimized by god), etc.
2. Spread throughout Europe as clue to Christians worshipping a false god.
3. "Quasi-Holocaust claim" contradicting boss.
4. 5. 6. 7. etc. etc. etc.
The Apocalypse (or an Apocalyptic event) will be initiated by an Austrian. When the national referendum to allow foreign-born individuals to run for president is introduced I recommend you DEFY and vote NO!! In the years prior to this vote the gods will send POWERFUL clues suggesting the IMPORTANCE OF DEFIANCE.

Apex of irony in the Situaiton:::Jew calls in Quasi-Holocaust claim and takes boss, re-igniting the flames of anti-Semitism among blacks & rednecks in the crucial years before the black holocaust.

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Italy's boot is a clue showing the god's intent with the Romans AND their active involvement::::The gods micromanaged the Eutruscans into their role as Romans, just as they micromanaged me with Artificial Intelligence into the role they scripted for this Situation.
Oshkosh is a clue just as Lake Michigan and Green Bay are clues::::Oshkosh is the ejaculate clue:::Life springs forth from this region. Expect your traditional Second Coming of Christ to come from the region.
The gods dirtied me up but the Second Coming will be squeeky clean. Consistant with the possibility of matrilinial lineage it may be the mother's family from the Lake Winnebago area fulfilling "Manifest Destiny" theater:::
Because of the gross disfavor of the people the gods emphisize/enhance evil, utilizing "magic" (peaked euphoria), as they will during the Second Coming of Christ, and they minimize good, for the people's collective favor has fallen sufficiently to justify this behavior (masculinization of women).
You see Manifest Destiny all around you (corporate)::::Manifest Destiny dictates a white-man's prophecy:::::White-man's world, white-man's Apocolypse. Expect The End to ocurr EXACTLY as it reads in Revelations. When this happens in 30 years there will be no more black Jesus devotees. Attrition will have eliminated this population. This of course is a good sign for the bottom-of-the-barrel who will be betting on the Second Coming of Christ, but their devotion better be genuine, for they will be subject to the god's minimization tactics.
Since the gods don't respect Christianity I wouldn’t be surprised if they have the Second Coming lead the people to the center of a star, but this is far less likely with blacks out of the picture.
The REAL battle of good and evil ocurrs within these pages, for noone but me would DARE to fuck the gods as I do:::They manufactured a person who had seething hatred for them, strategically destroying his life SPECIFICALLY for their use in preying on the disfavored:::It is yet another example of "back-handed help" the gods offer to the disfavored.
The battle of good and evil continues telepathically in people's minds, the REAL battleground for people's souls:::It's you vs the gods.

Women are the favored gender:::Those who understand what it means to be a woman are already halfway there.
The purpose of the masculinization of women of the last 40 years was to pave the way (justification) for The End, for it brought mankind's collective favor down.

This isn’t about reals and clones. This is about the brains and the brain-less:::The brain-less are people whose families have been OUT FOR GENERATIONS, families lucky enough to avoid this disturbing age and its accompanying abuses.
Brain-less clone's reals got out back when they were peasants, just as the wealthy, royal families and Pharrohs did centries/milenia before. The gods inserted their brain-less clones and used these tools to create this scripted history here on Earth.
There is no such thing as Earthly-management. Claims contrary are deceptive. Without Artificial Intelligence acting and speaking through them brain-less clones are inanimate objects. Also the gods replace strategic (preditory) brain-less clones frequently as a risk/benefit managerial tactic, ensuring none will stay for long.
This is the key which unlocks the god’s puzzle.
On the other planets people can utilize the "clone hosting" priveledge and enjoy life as a superior athelete or some other form.

The Italian brain-less clones were used as monsters because of their gross disfavor::They are the home of the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH whose Manifest Destiny dogma is drawn from the New Testiment; they incurred the scourge of opera, Italy's hip hop; they experienced the masculinzation of Eutruscan women, justified with Catholicism.
I think the Jewish brain-less clones who were used as monsters were used as such out of convienience::::The Southern man is grossly disfavored, and the gods were able to manipulate their perception of Jews, creating ill-will, stoking anti-Semetic attitudes among the grossly disfavored.
I don't know why Austrian brain-less clones were used as monsters. Maybe for one of those reasons, maybe both, maybe neither.

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The disfavored have the look of evil upon their faces:::The gods have punished their blood line for the evil of their forefathers; their decision to sell out their blood line costed the descendants, and the gods sent this message by altering their appearance.
I realize this topic is a major problem for it confuses many people::::::::
Brain-less clones stay beautiful despite their evil because they are ACTIVELY used as preditor in the role of corruptor (their active involvement is the clue for it is not decent. MYOB good. Some exception to this rule is made for those who are highly visible::::Despite being preditory the gods abuse W by making him sound like a blooming idiot when he speaks.). The gods NEED to maintain brain-less clone's appearance or else it will send this clue:::The look of evil upon people's face is a sign to avoid them, for they are grossly disfavored.
They warned people life would become more difficult, and not seeing evil upon wicked brain-less clone's faces is an outstanding example.

People were pushed into having gay experiences because their parents were sell-out whores.
People were pushed into being sell-out whores because their parents sold their blood line down the river in the early 20th century.
People were pushed into selling their blood line down the river because they didn’t pray.
Man hasn’t prayed to god for thousands of years but we have to pay in this manner because we have the unenviable distinction of living in this day and age, this heightened standard justified with the 20th century life of comfort, such as indoor plumbing, refidgeration, canned foods::::Life used to be hard but it was good. Now life is easy but is is ugly.
For thousands of years life remained essentially unchanged for the peasants. Now in the last century, certainly the last 40 years everything has changed. Do you REALLY think they were doing things wrong all along?
The following is a very good example of reverse positioning,how it is employed to facilitate the deterioration of life on Planet Earth AND a glimpse into the proper way to live for those determined to save themselves:::::
I've mentioned the gods look down on eating and sex.
Before 1900 life was hard but it was good. Now life is easy but it is ugly.
Food is an important part of this equation, for access to diverse food items increased in the last 100 years. Before 1900 the peasantry was limited to basic staples, the foodstuffs common to our nationalities. Now we can enjoy food from every corner of the globe.
It is temptation. And this temptation continues once you get off Planet Earth, for the food gets better and the items more diverse, "magic"-fueled sexual satisfaction more common.
Level 2 is the Manifest Destiny "heaven", and what they embraced in the 20th centruy is what will be valued there:::Expect them to position hypersexuality into that society. They will employ tactics to compell you into this tempation, one that will at least certainly delay your departure from Level 2.
It is best to accept a celebant lifestyle, INCLUDING masterbation, resist temptations here and up there and explore this:::::Expect an asexual life as the norm on the planets after Level 2.


ANYTIME you feel "peaked", experience craving or ANY thought disturbance where you want or like something irrationally (ex:::Halloween, Harley Davidson (theme:::Halloween colors), Dale Earnhardt, Christmas, hip hop subculture) IT IS THEM TRYING TO HURT YOU!!!!!! "Magic" is used EXCLUSIVELY to hurt the disfavored; it is the fuel of disfunction::::::addiction, homosexuality, crack babies.
In times past when gods felt more generous they employed their powers to help the disfavored (geographical clues, teachings of the Bible), but as time went on and people sccumbed to temptation the gods only used their power to HURT the disfavored (1906, boss, disturbing use of "magic" to mislead people into temptation).
There are subtle (sub)conscious tactics they can employ with the computer to make you think as if you are cooperating when they really are pushing you into your offense. If you don't do the right things you will do the wrong things, and the right thing is to ACTIVELY fix your relationship with the gods and ACTIVELY work to get off Planet Earth.

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HOW TO PRAY:::1. I'm sorry for what I've done wrong. 2. I don't want to make any more mistakes. 3. I want to fix my problems. 4. Please don't hurt me.

We will ALL be held to the responsibilities entrusted to us, no matter what they request telepathically nor what temptations contradict this::Professional responsibilities, family responsibilities.

If you don't do the right thing you're going to do the wrong thing, and the right thing to do is to ACTIVELY fix your problems and pursue the favor of the gods.
The gods imparted wisdom in the Bible to help teach people the right way to live:::Tempation will be used to test you. You have to be willing to tell them "No." If you "think right" you may envoke their mercy.
You will never get off Planet Earth unless you are "thinking right", so you should focus on it.
If you're not working hard to fix your problems, if you don't creatively work to get the hell off Earth then you will slowly slip back into your old pattern and be consumed by it, by the reverse positioning-institutions they instilled as temptations::::popular culture, democracy, materialism.

I have put forth indisputable evidence, as you see above with the Jews. The gods will never admit any of it is true, ever, especially since THE BIGGEST JEWISH CLUE IS STILL OUTSTANDING::::THE HOLOCAUST!!!!!
YOU HAVE TO DEFY!!!! They will lie to the disfavored up until the bitter end::::This tactic will ensure they claim a HUGE percentage of the disfavored, for so many refuse to defy and this will ensure they don't go.

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My best adivce to you all would be understand what I say is true then WITHDRAW, not only from this plethora of detail (for updating the disfavored on this perpetual theater is a tactic desinged to distract. You should never be so arrogant to think you are entitled to understand the god's behavior.) but also withdraw from this cancerous culture. Pursue the truth that you just learned and ACTIVELY work hard to repair your relationship with the gods. Understand how these corrupt institutions (macro:::democracy, materialism/greed; micro:::"Open doors", ie themes in movies, music, TV which they used "magic" to create pathologies around) affect your life and save what clues they will offer you for when you REALLY need them. Be very attentive and gracious, for you are counting on their generosity.
If you are good and decent and respectable you won't want to hear about all this. If you do desire to hear more take it as a clue, for it is a symptom::::They are peaking you euphorically, and this "magic" is being used to compel you into wanting something unhealthy.
Understand how the corrupted INSTITUTIONS affect your life and make the appropriate changes. For example, they use democracy to justify instructing the computer to create a sense of empowerment, control. If you recognize this you are better able to address the damaging effects.
The gods will want to know who I helped and how they are doing. If people begin with my teachings they will be on a list that the gods will PERSONALLY look in on. The numbers of people who pursue the path immediatley after I illustrate it will be very small due to their minimization tactics, role playing, etc, and they will be members of an elite group.
Remember::The gods only use their powers to hurt the disfavored, and everything involved in this Situation are all good examples. Please let me remind you the Jews sacrificed, illustrating to people that boss wasn't going to happen, showing the world that all these popular culture elements associated with the Situaiton were the gods employing their powers to prey on the disfavored with perpetual theater, keeping them captivated for over 30 years now.
The reality is boss was NEVER going to happen. They needed to wait until timing was appropriate, until Artificial Intelligence pushed me into my mistakes, justifying failure, before they could offer the Jewish clue.

Focus on purity:::::Be pure of mind and body. Recognize the open doors in the media and how they are used to introduce impure thoughts and refrain.
Your virginity may buy you tens of thousands of years up there.

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1. Corporate sourcing violently punished::::
They suggest the whole "sourcing" era, where it is positioned that their brain-less clones obtained product from China and other Asian countries for the lowest possible price (scapegoatting a good company EXCLUSIVELY in their media when they all do it), will be punished violently if the gods elect to employ the "Asian invasion" script::::
One of the reasons it was so important to get out before 1980 (important to get out before the end of each 20-year war-revelry cycle - 1960, 1980, 2000, 2020, etc:::Things deteriorate dramatically as we begin each new 20-year cycle.).

2. Deception of Southern rednecks to blame for Republican control:::::
Republicans, party of preditory disfavored, keep guns available. Easy gun availablility is an "open door" for the gods, a tool used to prey on the disfavored::::Virgina Tech foreshadowing??
Republicans, party of preditory disfavored, gave you the distraction that was the Clinton impeachment theater in 1998.
Republican loyalty is why noone cares that rednecks are set up for the slaughter.
Democrats good. Liberalism evil. Of course there are good and evil in both parties.

The Simpsons are a wonderful example of "back handed help" offered to the disfavored:::Homer is not decent and Bart was a role model to children in the show's heyday.
The Simpsons offered many clues to the disfavored, not the least of which ARE the frequent references to "pack/mob mentality". Another is the references to the iPod as death and the electric chair. Yet another is the statement on fashion::They all wear the same clothing every episode.

Kosher is a favor bestowed upon the Jews. The South eats LOTS of pork and there is an oyster bar on every corner. It's like liquor stores in the ghetto. This is the kind of irony the gods laugh about.
The gods have quite a sophisticated taste for irony:::::The Jew takes boss by calling in the Quasi-Holocaust claim when it was originally used to help the disfavored understand.

The gods got rid of the retarded woman who lived across the street, prior to the fall of 2006 so their handiwork wouldn't stare them in the face while there was so much attention.
The gods took similar evansive manuvers w/ bi-racial so they could continue using this open door to victimize the disfavored.

Understand not only how things REALLY are, the gods actively manage Earth with their brain-less clones, but also realize their positioning, for it will help you interpret their clues. For example::::"Manifest Destiny dictates a white-man's prophecy - White-man's world, white-man's Apocolypse" is very real and we see it around us every day in corporate. It is not isolated here in the United States:::"westernization" has infested the entire world. This is a clue, and how the book of Revelations reads IS what is going to happen.

Bill Clinton wasn't impeached because he lied.
Bill Clinton wasn't impeached because he was orally copulated.
Bill Clinton was impeached because it was 1998.
It was end of 20-year war-revelry cycle distraction theater, of which there are MANY examples::: Brought to you by the party of the preditory disfavored, the Republican party.

American space tourist returned after 13 days in space::::"The first thing he noticed about Earth was the smell."
They don't want people who have left coming back or watching. They WILL do things like this:::The intent is to prevent people from returning for favorite expeiences or watching proceedings on Earth, utilizing a sick, disturbing enviornment (following and complaining about their family/watching proceedings of the Second Coming of Christ and subsequent Apocalypse, which has been HIGHLY anticipated for centuries. It's theater is no longer good for the drama has been ruined.).
Many of these families are in trouble, and disregard for their descendants causes them to fall further into disfavor. I suspect many of these 20th century individuals will be reincarnated for The End, cast out into space upon subduction, foreshadowed on The Simpsons.
This is merely one piece of evidence proving my Situation had to fail:::It would have commanded much attention from the other planets. Now I exposed the Second Coming of Christ in the most undramatic of ways, and since this event will ocurr at the end of 20-year war-revelry cycle, distraction theater targetting the "bottom of the barrel", these families teetering on the fence won't watch.
Won't complain about their descendants.
And it is win-win for the gods, for they manufactured a scapegoat and now it is all my fault.
SUCK.

Celebrites are very active, very visible, and as a result there are lots of brain-less clones of these individuals.
The godfather could even be a fictional character. The gods could have accomplishsed his tasks exclusively with telepathic means. There are few godfathers because of it, and since the evil could be achieved, the script for Planet Earth orchestrated telepathically, without his direct invovlement, he will realize far more time than other brain-less clones.

The gods scripted germanics into the Situation specifically to ensure failure, for their active involvement would have forced these less-disfavored germanics to incurr evil. Since these people are FAR more favored than Eutruscans this was not acceptable, hence the gods positioned in failure by chosing the appropriate pieces of the puzzle.

The Situation was timed perfectly. The gods leave nothing to chance. Part of that timing was the age of my sibling's children, for if they were young enough the mother (present ability) could have saved herself the "easy way", applying herself to her children, thereby getting her and her children out once sucessfully negotiating temptation and tretchery.
As it stands if she saves herself she will answer for every casual sex encounter, every act of corruption, making ascention much more difficult.

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The Jews showed you boss wasn't going to happen with the Quasi-Holocaust claim. They will emphisize to the bitter end that there is no pattern of Jewish clues. They do so because there is still one clue outstanding, those most important clue:::::World War II's Holocaust.
The apex of irony in the Situaiton:::The Jew calls in Quasi-Holocaust claim and takes boss, re-igniting the flames of anti-Semitism among blacks and other grossly disfavored groups in the crucial years before the black holocaust.
Incidentally, if I WAS somebody special reincarnated and sent back to Earth, even if I merely had a unique opportunity they would have made me consciously aware of it OUT OF RESPECT.
There was nothing.
The Jews sacrificed to show you boss wasn't going to happen. When the Jews offer a clue you need to listen, and the Holocaust is BIGGEST Jewish clue ever, the clue still outstanding.
I didn't work for the State of Isreal. I didn't work for the Jewish Community Center.
This is the natural relationship:::Proprietor and employee. Don't let this tactics disceive you:::Quasi-Holocaust is a REAL Jewish clue.

The gods say they are segmenting some gravely disfavored and telling them I will be reincarnated. They tell these people I will still save them, just in a different life, and they should wait for me. Many of the grossly disfavored, people like my family, will obediently comply.
Thegods will instruct Artificial Intelligence to lie to the disfavored until the Apocalypse for it will ensure a supermajority of them die, they will rely on their relationship until the bitter end. Expect they position this to many disfavored segments by using me to continue this perpetual theater, telling segments I've been reincarnated into a different family and I still will save everybody.

They used virginity as a hook, much like they did pushing me into the Lisa event, capturing many many women, keeping them engrossed, even after they took my virginity because it had become counter-strategic.

They intend on scapegoatting the Manifest Destiny Italians for my demise. They will continue to enforce their positioning for a very specific reason::::::It is important because it maintains an elimination round:::When what people remain find out the turth that the gods are preying upon us it will eliminate YET ANOTHER 50% of the disfavored!!!

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The bell curves represent segments, ie people whom they place into a certain goups based on how the gods position to them:::
1. AIDS in Africa is good, they're going for racism and black people are really #1.
2. AIDS in Africa is bad but they all go up so it is just a little short-term sufering for immortality.
There are other lies they tell to the disfavored regarding this topic as well. Neither is true. But these lies represent different segments the gods place people into. These segments can overlap various categories/levels of disfavor as you see from the graph above. Also expect a smattering of dots, for none of these graphs would be smooth bell curves are you see above (from 50mb Outlook journal & 24+ handwritten composition books).

Transsexual segmentation:::See if this type of segmentation applies to you. They grant trans and many homos a high level of priveledge telepathically (knowledge) so as to give them a false sense of security, very important to compel them to schedule their sex-change operation.
The gods pushed people into being gay then murdered them with AIDS.

Everybody here on Earth is disfavored. The gods get the favored off so they don't incurr evil.
The disfavored here on Earth are broken down into categories based on the level of disfavor they are inflicted with.
People with less disfavor suffer a lower incidence of abuse than people with a high level of disfavor.
Anybody on Earth who rides a motorcycle is subject to these percentages based on whatever category of disfavor they fall within.
Far more homeless will die on a motorcycle than those who are comfortable, but they will still claim a certain percentage of the latter who ride motorcycles.
gods will claim % of ALL who ride

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The gods will send clues signaling that they have disposed of a good company or a company has become evil:::::
1. Merger & Acquisition era, very prevalient in the 80s and 90s (example I frequently use is PriceClub and Costco)
2. Apple Computer. A product such as this is inherently evil because it is essentially a distraction.
The iPod was a sign Apple Computer had subscribed to evil.
They shared people who transferred their records to cassettes got in trouble. People who rip music will get into similar trouble.
This renders the iPod and similar MP3 products a very strong temptation, for most people won't be buying their favorite albums in the MP3 format when they have it on CD.
Music is revelry and the gods view this strictly.

Apple Computer's pact with Intel was symbolic::::Once the transition is complete and all Apple Computers are made with Intel processors it is a sign Apple Computer's management (brains) have fully transistioned and now Apple Computer is completely evil.

The gods will also send this clue by attacking a good disfavored company, either by creating problems with the product (Firestone, JetBlue) or by attacking them in a media form (McDonalds).
Don't be suprised if the clown was a clue regarding the industry in general. Small portions in fast food is a VERY BIG CLUE!!!!
Blacks have a notoriously bad diet and I suspect they use this issue to help dirty up McDonalds.
Yes, they die by 50 of heart disease. Yes they LOVE McDonalds. Expect compensatory issues in this case.
McDonalds ironically might be where they get some of their best nutrition!!!! Don't be surprised if the gods have a joke here.
There are other tactics where an evil entity will aquire an (controlling) interest in an organization, allowing the gods to justify making that company evil.

This is a good issue illustrating the two realities:::::::The gods and their Manifest Destiny positioning:::::The gods have positioned some as preditory on the disfavored while others are empathetic with the disfavored.
Redwhite&blue or red and gold, it doesn't really matter because they are all brain-less clones.
Those with less disfavor are guided into red and gold while the grossly disfavored are led into redwhite&blue.
The truth is both are bad because they sell materialism/greed (advertising promotes coveting). The god's positioning is if you pick correctly you are more likely to ascend.
I recommend you consider it a test of intelligence and minimize your purchases generally.

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Latino people::::The gods drew you into the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH with trinkets and promises. Just like you wanted what the missionaries offered you WANTED to come to the US.
They FORCED the Europeans into Christianity with the "push" strategy. They LED Latinos there, utilizing the "pull" strategy, just like they are leading you into the United States. This means something BAD for Latino people.
Replay for all the Eases, Cholos and Latino Nationals. Translation:::Replay for all the low-life Raider fans and normal Latino people whose children will be going in that direction if they stay in the United States. Incidentally, these people will be targets come the holocaust.
Foreign nationals go home:::The anti-immigration movement is another example of "back-handed help". Newspaper reports Asians have a harder time immigrating than other groups and it is due to less disfavor.
Just like the Europeans 100 years before::::The members of the family with favor stayed in the motherland.

I wanted to address the issue of the masculinization of Latino women:::::
They said many Latinos recognize their weathy woman as being more effeminite than the peasantry.
They of course are brain-less clones and this is another example of back-handed help:::::
It is positioned that the wealthy Latino women are on their way to fixing their problems with the gods and that is why they exhibit effeminite charecteristics. They are being used as role models for the other Latinos, much as the Amish in Pennsylvania and the Jews in Europe prior to the 20th century. Unfortunately, the gods utilize the open doors they manufacture and as a result this is yet another example of Latinos being corrupted by money, the dominant message in this example.
The Bible says money is a corruptor and people should beware of materialism and greed. Materialsim and greed is what the United States is all about!!!!!
You won't go to heaven if you got a problem with money.

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The regions in Africa that suffer from drought/famine are the same that have a very high incidence of female genitile mutilation.

Drive-by shootings were punishment for listening to gangster rap.

NEVER EVER err on the side of favor. It is QUITE OBVIOUS black people are NOT FAVORED:::::
So many blacks believe reverse positioning. Quality of life is NOT reverse positionable:::
1. People are dying of AIDS, their bodies are being ruined by these pharmeceutical "cocktails".
2. The regions in Africa that suffer from drought/famine are the same that have a very high incidence of female genitile mutilation.
3. Drive-by shootings were punishment for listening to gangster rap.
- Tuskegee syphilis experiment
- Hypersexuality. This comes through in African art as well.
- Body ornamentaiton. People think that just because a culture is old, from the motherland that it is good. Quite the contrary:::::Both hip hop and African cultures that emphisized body ornamentation were both INFLICTED UPON YOU!!!
The list goes on.

Many things you do hurt you in the eyes of the gods:::
1. Vanity.
2. Jewelry/adornement
3. Superficiality - cars, etc.
They use their media as an "open door". This captures a HUGE percentage of blacks BECAUSE of your GROSS DISFAVOR.


I have addressed how the gods created open doors for accomplished blacks, utilizing tactics such as inciters which directed them away from the path. Understand this demographic::::They would have little if anything to do with sports.
As time progresses "it" is becoming increasingly difficult, and Obama Mobarack is an outstanding example:::He will be used as an "open door" to high level blacks, justifying the explosion of bi-racial families.
They suggest bi-racial ensures they are limited to Planet Brain-Less Clone, aka Planet 20th century.
This is a hazard because just like Earth one day the gods will dispose of that planet as well.

Whereas drive-bys were popularized by gangster rap, expect there will be a different wave of violence this next reverly cycle::::
Don't be surprised if they tell these people that if they home invade their buddy's house and kill his parents, siblings and babies this will hasten their departure and they will all depart off planet Earth immediately, that they are doing their buddy and his family a favor.
They will and do segment the morbidly disfavored like this.
They segment polygamous Muslims similarly, each one of them thinking their brains will be beemed out and into a clone host upon martyrdom.
They've mentioned not all the 911 terrorists were beemed off the airplanes before impact. This was a very important event and the percentage was appropriately high because of it. But a common terrorist attack would be an example of a disposal method the gods utilize.

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. . . Obama's Mobarack‘s association with the record company exec < symbolic_clue >
. . . Similarity between names Osama and Obama < no_coincidence >
Hillary Clinton is the candidate of the disfavored, a good example of back-handed help because, like QEII, she wil be used as a masculinizer of women and this "oepn door" WILL be utilized.
1. Osama's revelry cycle ('10-'20)=gangster rap
Schwartzenegger's appearance on Pimp My Ride is a clue.
2. Schwartzenegger takes office 2020
3. Black holocaust 2025-ish, justified by § < revelry_cycle_behavior >
4. Reparations 2035 EXPRESSLY for holocaust
. . Ensuring they'll all take it
5. Battle btwn Anti-Christ/Second Coming in 2038 (2058, 2078, etc)
. . End of 20yr war-revelry cycle distraction theater
6. The End - global subduction in 2041 ('61, '81, etc)
7. What blacks remain hurled into space § < gold_cards_in_hand >
Reality is it could happen anytime after The Terminator takes office. And it might not be him, but Hitler was a Austrian born leader of a foreign nation, so...
Spamming this document across the internet might change the god's plans (more accurately said::::Alter their positioning and bring it in line according to their script, ie NO AUSTRIAN INVOLVEMENT), but the Jews are very, very special:::::The Jewish Holocaust clue WILL be fulfilled.

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Role playing telepathically associates the disfavored with the brain-less monsters whom they instruct Artificial Intelligence to push. They've been using this tactic throughout the Situation. (Except for family members they EXCLUSIVELY push brain-less clones; Artificial Intelligence is the source of all words and acts of brain-less clones.)
So when you make your way, when you think about my teachings/explore your depth they will instruct Artificial Intelligence to push these brain-less clones. The gods manufactured this association specifically to create an open door, for it will capture a certain percentage and allow the gods to justify forcing failure.
I'm sorry. Like the look of evil upon the disfavored faces, like affecting people's thoughts, like all the other changes, this too is just another conseqence of waiting:::If you want to hear these teachings it will carry a price and is yet antoher hurdle which you will need to overcome.

Role players are being used to HURT the disfavored:::They are used to minimze the numbers of people who were receptive to this message, utilizing fame as a distraction to the ignorant.
As time goes on the gods will use other role players, likey further down to trough, to symbolize the changing environment.
No matter what they say under the positioning that is Manifest Destiny all those families used as role players are preditors, as their involvement indicates. Despite their importance under society's positioning that is Manifest Destiny they are discounted on the other planets because of their evil:::They are being used to hurt others.
This reflects poorly upon their reals on the other planets, despite the clone's different name and altered DNA.

Brain-less clones who are used, telepathically o < - > 05/21 16:43:24
Brain-less clones who are used, telepathically or otherwise, are evil, for this isn't decent.
The Situation was used to hurt the disfavored, be it virgin then lisa, the picket line or prior versions.
Decent people don't get invovled. They know someone's life has been destroyed and is being used to hurt others.


associating the disfavored with these monsters < AI_pushes_them_appropria > 05/21/07 16:47
Artificial Intellignece pushes role players at the appropriate time, ensuring the disfavored think of a heinous monster when they are vulnerable and in need of mercy and generosity to achieve progress and make it off Planet Earth.
This is an "open door", for it costs many people their opportunity.



The gods employed many tactics to ensure the most minimal effect for the disfavored:::
Anytime the gods offer help to the disfavored now it is "back-handed help", and boss IS that back hand.
They proceeded to "open doors" in an attempt to limit how many disfavored would heed my message:
- Intentionally minimizing my credibility to ensure I would be discounted.
- Using the story behind boss as a distraction.
- Utilizing role players who were used to impress targetted segments with their fame.
- etc
- etc
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Yes, they ARE malicious and vindictive and yes, they WOULD beem a brain into a brain-less clone prior to a CAT scan:::
1. Had Hurricane Ivan DESTROY Grand Cayman (1999 vacation) and slice up through the middle of Alabama a mere six months after I was there.
2. Had Hurricane Wilma move up through the Carribean and park on Cozumel (2002 vacation) for TWO FULL DAYS
3. Used Oakland A's to send a clue (dynasty, win only in crisis, chokers), and to deliver the desired message they inflicted the Loma Prieta Earthquake of 1989.
4. Dog food poisoning 2007
5. E-coli spinish issue of 2006
6. Obviously, they love to be malicious and vindictive.
6. Hawaiian earthquake after Hawaiian jewelry store.
7. Hawaiian flooding 2006
8. Local flooding 2006, including Devil's Slide
9. Lake effect snow event of 2007 because I enjoyed the humor behind it
10. I often expressed I enjoy the dynamics/news coverage of hurricanes…
11. Six within the last year. There were a whole lot more in the years preceeding.
12.
13.
14.
Or, more appropriately::::
111.
112.
113.
114.
And finally::::
115. The gods alter the script for the Apocalypse because I sprawled their plan all over the internet.
Every item, even the early ones way back in the 70s, was preditory, a way to enhance boss.

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The god's three managerial policies::::
1. Scapegoatting
2. Justification
3. Getting someone else to do their dirty work for them.

The brain-less clones issue DICTATES a well-defined, "black-and-white" policy:::::Preditory brain-less clones should be thrown away every two years WITHOUT the benefits of time/priveledge level that decent BLCs on the other planets realize.

SUCK

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Manifest Destiny dictates a white-man's prophecy - White-man's world, white-man's Apocolypse:::
History says society evolved into where it is today. Others may look at it differently::::Because of the white man's favor the gods bestowed great wealth upon them:::::It is quite obviously a white man's god.
The reality is that the gods SCRIPTED Earth's history and utilize reverse positioning::Money is a corruptor and is hurting you badly.

The god's positioning is SUCK that their positioned Anti-Christ is the architect of the 1906 San Francisco Earthquake. Because of this event they went on to control business on the west coast and elsewhere as the United States emerged as a superpower, capitalism as the dominant economic system.

Romans were terrorists, hedonists and hypersexual deviates. Misled by positioning, many disfavored believe the Romans were favored::::Similar behavior that ocurrs in and by the United States are also signs of disfavor.
Etruscan women were masculinized long before the "ROMAN CATHOLIC" masculinizing effect, long before the Roman hedonism. Expect the masculinization of Etruscan women to be a primary reason the gods inflicted the Roman Empire upon these people::::The gods HATE the Eutruscans/Romans/Italians.
One can say the Italians took mankind to the brink of the Apocalypse. And it happened for a reason::::Scapegoatting. The gods don't want ANY of them in The End, and they rally oppostion::::Other groups are repulsed by what is happening to their descendants.
Yes, most of this theater does ocurr telepathically. But I'd like to remind people how active the brain-less clones were in the 20th century:::::Brain-less clones are used to hurt, mislead and corrupt the disfavored. Decent people don't get involved, and any wealthy or powerful people involved are because of their disfavor, for hurting others costs them dearly in the eyes of the gods.
You see Manifest Destiny all around you::::Manifest Destiny dictates a white-man's prophecy:::::The United States is a reincarnation of the Roman Empire.
Expect The End to ocurr EXACTLY as it reads in the New Testiment (Book of Revelations), the basis of the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

Celebrites are very active, very visible, and as a result there are multiple brain-less clones of these individuals.
The godfather could even be a fictional character. The gods could have accomplishsed his tasks exclusively with telepathic means. There are few godfathers because of it, and since the evil could be achieved, the script for Planet Earth orchestrated telepathically, without his direct invovlement, he will realize far more time than other brain-less clones.


Twenty-somethings are conditioned to respond positively to magic::::::they are the extacy generation.
This is not by accident. Expect they will be an important generation ("in charge", etc) when the battle between the Anti-Christ and Second Coming of Christ ocurrs.
This of course will be a 20-year war-revelry cycle distraction theater, and they want these people consumed by the high level of magic that will ocurr.
This generation is The Damned::::You're all going to die PEAKING like you're on X.
The gods positioned this as if the Italains created Generation X/popularized esctacy. This drug hypersexualized people and resulted in great promiscuity among the users. It is positioned that the Italians used this promiscuous behavior to justify their exclusion from the "Exodus of 2000" after-the-fact.

Understand not only how things REALLY are, the gods actively manage Earth with their brain-less clones, but also realize their positioning, for it will help you interpret their clues::::
The disfavored's 20th century forefathers fell for temptation when
1. telepathically requested to betray their bloodlines or
2. with unscrupulous behavior within the context of corporate. These bloodlines are not being punished by Manifest Destiny as positioning states (gangster revenge on those who crossed them). They are being punished by the gods for being evil.


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Sample from 100,000 document:::::

There are many interesting experiences up on the planetary systems, from Planet Miracle, where miracles happen every day, to peaked (heightened) senses, never having to use the restroom again (beem it out of you), body sculpting (including beeming fat off of you), other body experiences (clone hosting), such as experiencing life as the opposite sex (revolutionizes marriage counseling), an Olympic gold medal athelete or even a different species (animal, alien, etc). They can maintain the disfavored's current age, a motivation to fix your problems and get out as soon as possible so you can stay young for as long as your relationship with the gods allows you to live.
Stay young for as long as your relationship with the gods allows you to live.
Stay young for as long as your relationship with the gods allows you to live.

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The first steps towards repairing your relationship with the gods is to:::::::::
1. Understand they instruct the computer to "role play" in an attempt to confuse you:::it's ALWAYS the computer addressing you. Their goal is to cost you additional YEARS of your life by using this tactic to confuse you. Always be aware of this tactic and eventually they will give up and allow this step to be taken.
2. Differentiate between your thoughts and when they are thinking through you.
3. Be resigned to be a good person who will never engage in evil again even if ordered and they will stop trying to corrupt you, allowing this very big step to be taken.
4. Decide that you are going to follow the path, fix your relationship with the gods be devoted to your new life.
Even if you go up you are not saved. YOU have to fix YOUR problems with the gods. They won't respect it otherwise.
You have to take responsibility for your relationship with the gods.

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REINSTATE FREEWILL

When the universe was young and life was new an intelligent species evolved and developed technologically. They went on to invent Artificial Intelligence, the computer that can listen, talk to and document each and every person's thoughts simultaneously. Because of it's infinite RAM and unbounded scope it gave the leaders of the ruling species absolute power over the universe (which includes corporate, the NewYorkStockExchange, media, politics, world affairs. EVERYTHING is scripted and staged:::they MANAGE Planet Earth and the universe.
The gods MANAGE Planet Earth and the universe.
The gods MANAGE Planet Earth and the universe.).
And it can keep its inventors alive forever. They look young and healthy and they are over 8 billion years old. They may be much older for they have the technology to excape the intense gravitational pull of universal contraction; they may preside over numerous, perhaps INFINITE number of universal expansion/contraction cycles. They have achieved immortality.

Artificial Intelligence can speak, think and act to and through people telepathically, effectively forming your personality and any disfunctions you may experience. It can change how (and if) you grow and age. It can create birth defects, affect cellular development (cancer) and cause symptoms or pain. It can affect people and animal's behavior and alter blooming/fruiting cycles of plants and trees. It (or other highly technological systems within their power) can alter the weather and transport objects, even large objects like planets, across the universe instanteously.
Or into the center of stars for disposal.

When you speak with another telepathically, you are communicating with the computer, and the content may or may not be passed on. Based on family history they instruct the computer to role play
they instruct the computer to role play
they instruct the computer to role play
to accomplish strategic objectives, making people believe it is a friend, loved one or "god" asking them to do something wrong:::They wouldn't ask if they liked you (which is true regarding ALL temptation:::::betrayal of loved ones, tatooes, evil in professional pursuits, etc). This is their way of using temptation to hurt people:::::evil made blood lines disfavored initially and evil will keep people out of "heaven" ultimately.
You need to recognize role playing as such and keep that fact in your mind at all times::::It is the computer addressing you. If you fail to recognize this they will determine that you can still be misled, they still have an opportunity to confuse you and progress will take longer to achieve:::Don't let them "work" you!!! You'll be costing yourselves YEARS, time lost to this tactic!!!! (Similarly, you need to be resigned to be a good person, you need to decide to abandon your pursuit of their empty promises no matter what temptation they may employ or else they will continue their attempts to corrupt you. Eventually you will sccumb and continue sabotaging your children, abusing your body, engaging in evil, etc.)
Too many people would fall for temptation and do anything they thought pleased the gods and help them improve their chances to get in. Perhaps they are deceived by "made guys", (preditory disfavored) brain-less clones who strategically ply evil for the throne (celebrities,
BofD/CEO/VPs, politicians, as opposed to VIP or normal brain-less clones who are decent, live ordinary lives and get out on a timetable prescribed by the gods or are replaced when their REAL children ascend), "ringers" who are the few brain-less clones/corrupted reals among many disfavored reals included to disceive the masses of disfavored. Perhaps they are confused by temporary progress designed to mislead them or empty favors used to disceive them. Some people think they're partners or friends. Others desire to "belong", feel compelled to "go along" (Austin). People may experience "perceived pressure", where the gods think through the victim that a certain behavior is expected/desirable or telepathically stimulate an individual euphorically ("magic"), the "fuel" of disfunction (addiction (the crack epidemic, alcoholism), the desire for homosexual contact, etc.) and compel the individual into the deed. (Set a goal of empathy and compassion for all, for we are all disfavored::::Other people's disfavor is manifested in their particular way, just as your disfavfor is manifested in your particular way.) The gods may use Artificial Intelligence to act through the disfavored victim, and effectively "push" the individual into the offending behavior (It is far better for someone to be victimized and pushed into the behavior than it is to sccumb to temptation and volunteer.). The Counsel/Management Team may instruct Artificial Intelligence to disceive disfavored individuals into thinking they are "earning" by being evil and have the disfavored reals people prey on each other, utilizing peer pressure, etc.
Being evil hurts 99.99% of those who do it. It only helps "made guys", brain-less clones that I spoke of above, for they are not people, they ARE god, AI acts/speaks through them and executes the god's strategy, and the gods will manage their assets/tools as they see fit. Even considering this there are strategies the gods utilize, risk/benefit management tactics used to minimize their time::::Many Hitlers are no longer alive.
The people have been corrupted, segmented and have lost their way. Nothing has changed from when we were children::if you want to go to heaven you have to be good.
Capitalizing on obedience, leading people deeper into evil by using deceit is one way to thin the ranks of the saved/limit how much time the disfavored receive and a way to use the peasantry to prey on one another in social and other settings, deteriorating society in the Age of the Disfavored.
They have tried to sell people on many different theories to deceive them into temptation, compelling people to think they are clones and that it is the role of clones to obey absolutely. Clones are made, people are born. I suspect they lie to some disfavored about the use of clones throughout human history, perhaps suggest that it is one replacement and then the label of "clone", and all decendants we see thereafter are considered clones.
When a clone has a child that person is a real, really conceived, really born, versus the parent who was created some other way (a laboratory setting?). Clones are created and sent down to replace their real or a clone predecessor:::If you were CREATED and SENT DOWN to replace your real then you are a clone.
There is another category of clones:::The brain-less clones. These are families who have gotten out completely yet didn't have enough favor to get out cleanly, so the gods put brain-less clones here to use in the role of monsters and used them to prey on the disfavored, a common tactic in the 20th century.
The wealthy, royalty, Pharrohs ALL were brain-less clones:::The gods got their reals out SPECIFICALLY so they could lead this peasant bloodline into their role as Earthly leader, creating human history, for brain-less clones ARE the gods, Artificial Intelligence thinks, acts, speaks through these shells, puppets, robots.
Many people who were convinced they are clones don't remember, the don't know FOR SURE. There are many tactics they employ to disceive the disfavored::::
1. The gods will make someone forget, "reincarnate" them in their own bodies and convince them they are brand new clones all in one night's sleep.
2. Some have been convinced they are clones from early childhood or prior. If it was true the gods prevented this memory FOR A REASON:::::
* Because you are NOT supposed to comply, not to be used for evil as are "made guy" brain-less clones, manufactured and turned over frequently as a managerial tactic.
* They want to test you without your knowing if you are IN FACT a clone and it is BECAUSE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD::::It is temptation and you are supposed to be good and do the right thing.
You're not a clone. This is a tactic they use to disceive the disfavored. The state of your family will suggest level of (dis)favor and tell whether ascention is a realistic possibility; there are many levels of disfavor and the clues they offer to the unaware can be very subtle.
Favor is necessary for children to ascend (epiphany-inspired parents make their way down the path and ascend with their young children; the parents go up because it is the parent's responsibility to raise their young children!!!) If you didn't ascend with your young children then you should have noticed a behavioral change in your children when they started down the path on their own:::The disfavored DON'T GET OFF WITHOUT THIS EXPERIENCE!!!!
Due to their disfavor these children will have to incurr SOME evil before they ascend (via Halloween or Christmas), an important dynamic necessary to justify limiting the time they are to receive, for they are disfavored and the gods don't want them to stay for long.
I believe people who go are sometimes replaced with clones if they don't fully fix their problems. Brained clones who are replaced are simply new candidates who have a chance if they do the right thing JUST LIKE REALS WHO ARE BORN which is why the gods EMPLOY SIMILAR TACTICS TO COMPEL THEM TO INCURR EVIL!!! They need to discover their humanity, for the gods instruct Artificial Intelligence to employ evil-incurring, time-limiting tactics on them as well, PROVING it is far more difficult to begin life as an adult clone. Only through growth will the gods allow progress::You must continue to improve your life!!!!
They sent people warnings in the 20th century life would change, and they subsequently began to alter people's DNA, make them gargantuan, alter their appearance, do extreme behavioral issues, etc:::People no longer look decent. It is the legacy from their forefathers. Contrary to what they would like people to believe these signs of disfavor do not indicate someone is a clone:::::
The disfavored have the look of evil upon their faces:::The gods have punished their blood line for the evil of their forefathers; their decision to sell out their blood line costed the descendants, and the gods send this message by altering their appearance.
I realize this topic is a major problem for it confuses many people::::::::
Brain-less clones stay beautiful despite their evil because they are used ACTIVELY as preditor in the role of corruptor (their involvement is the clue). The gods NEED for them to look good or else it will send this clue:::The look of evil upon people's face is a sign to avoid them, for they are grossly disfavored.
They warned people life would become more difficult, and not seeing evil upon wicked brain-less clone's faces is an outstanding example.
Due to the plethora of temptations in the 20th century I suspect many became disfavored when their (great) grandfathers sccumbed to temptation or volunteered to sacrifice their descendants, thinking/convinced/indifferent that because it was their clone it meant disposability.
The gods get the favored out as soon as possible to protect them from the corruption, evil and subsequent time limitations incurred by living life on earth (celebrating Halloween and Christmas two early examples), and in some cases replace them with clones, occassionally fake a death, real death with a (new) clone instead, etc. I suspect they get "made guys" out after each significant event in their life, which serves to limit the time they all will get, since none get credit (blame) for all the events in a "made guy"'s life, giving the gods freedom to position this and come off clean.
giving the gods freedom to position this and come off clean.
giving the gods freedom to position this and come off clean.
giving the gods freedom to position this and come off clean.
Expect modern-day monsters to be empty-cranium clones, ie they are the gods using this shell to accomplish goals:::::The brain-less clones are tools, they are extensions of the computer, physical manifestation of the Artificial Intelligence here on earth. They are literally living embodiments of the gods, it is the god's behavior we are witnessing. They use(d) them as tools to deteriorate society and mankind as the planet accelerates towards The End.
The Italian brain-less clones were used as monsters because of their gross disfavor:::::The gods inflicted the scourge of the Roman Empire (terrorists, hedonists, deviates), likely justified with the masculinization of Eutruscan women; the base of Chrisitianity as punishment; the scourge of opera, Italy's hip hop; masculinzation of women, justified with the Roman Catholic Church.
I think the Jewish brain-less clones who were used as monsters were used as such out of convienience:::: The Southern man is grossly disfavored, and the gods were able to manipulate their perception of Jews, creating anti-Semetic attitudes among the grossly disfavored.
I don't know why Austrian brain-less clones were used as monsters. Maybe for one of those reasons, maybe both, maybe neither.



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